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PostedWed Dec 15, 2004 7:16 pm
by Nyase
Interesting information. Lot of the info came where I thought it did, just didn't want to look it up myself.(I'm lazy). I'll admit i don't know much about the Teris Kasi, but then again, only melee i ever paid attention to were the blast-knife users of Aadamar.
PostedWed Dec 15, 2004 10:33 pm
by Dariis
well this is How the Teras Kasi story goes as far as I know it to be.
long time ago almost 4 millenia, during the sith/Jedi war, the jedi tracked down a high number of dark side users to the Pacanth reach system, there on the Planet Palawa (where the Teras Kasi Monks lived) the Jedi found the highest concentration of these Force users. the Jedi destroyed the Planet killing almost all on it and thus saving the galaxy. The remaining Epicanthix (the palawan race) fled to the neighboring planet called Bunduki, the Teras Kasi, now weary of the Jedi, began to devolope a martial arts form to counter the threat of future meetings with the Jedi. At this point the Teras Kasi monks only had teh powers represented in the meditaion tree of the TKA proffession.
one critical point here. The teras kasi do not beleive in the Force, they beleive it is an inner strength that can be devolped, there for reject the Jedi's use of the Force, but call it their inner strength as well. BUT the Teras Kasi are incorrect and are accually force sensitve and unaware of it.
Now on Bunduki the epicanthix warriors create a powerful martial arts unique to the Teras Kasi. During this time the Jedi do not know about this small group. the Teras Kasi Monks become observers of the Jedi, and some Jedi go missing between this time and the dissolution of the Jedi council, they are rumored to be taken by "shadows" these "shadows" may have been Teras Kasi Monks. there are some meetings between Teras Kasi and Jedi knights however...the epicanthix warrior Phow Ji fought a Jedi knight in a long match during a tournament on bunduki, and beat the jedi. during this era however, Teras Kasi are just as, if not more rare than a Jedi, and because they are sensitive to teh force, other Jedi could possibly feel them, and surely would be hunted by the empire if found.
if you want more info, the links Seret posted are where a lot of this post comes from, also the link to the swg resouce that skarr posted is great for looking up info on characters like Phow Ji, Dux Pike (who Phow Ji killed in a tournament), or the Pike sisters (Dux Pikes daughters)
PostedTue Dec 21, 2004 7:56 am
by Kushiel Adaks
well if im not to late i think it would kick but to do this. i take avery advantage to kill imp i can.
PostedTue Jan 04, 2005 10:23 pm
by Dariis
im impressed by the imperial helps it looks like this battle could see

now that im back from my holiday vaction, I am looking forward to putting this in to motion. Also I was thinking about the lack of GCW in this game right now... maybe this future battle could be more like a future storyline that could involve a lot of people rebel, nuetral, and of course the evil empire. So one thing I feel could work for a storyline would be an imperial investigation into the Teras Kasi monks headed by the imperial inquisition. in essence this would give any jedi the ability to play the inquisitors, any imperials to be the officers and storm troopers assingned with ferriting out the Teras Kasi, gives MERCS a lot of bounties, and anyone else who would like to side with or against the Monks.
basically I am looking to involve my guild and any Teras Kasi interested in a story that doesnt have a happy ending. essentially the empire winning...but not without a great rp experience.
let me know if you guys see this becoming a cool plot, or if I should keep it simple and have one battle.
PostedTue Jan 04, 2005 10:35 pm
by Ekade
I like the idea.
I can see a lot of rich RP possibilities here. Plus it will expose people to the Teras Kasi. I don't know very much about them and I have avoided looking it up on purpose so I can RP Ekade's interactions with Dariis with greater realism.
The other thing I like about your event is that there is room for everyone that chooses to participate, rebel, imp, or otherwise.
PostedWed Jan 05, 2005 7:02 am
by Keer
I'm not trying to be the spoiler here but has anyone read an account of a duel between a Teras Kasi Monk and a Jedi Knight in any books?
I know how the game resolves these things, but I'm particularly interested in how a TK would deal with being Force Pushed. Or are they so fast that they could dodge/block a lightsaber strike? What would they block it with if they used no weapons? Darth Maul was supposed to be a TKM, but he was also a Sith Lord.
They only saving grace that I could imagine is if TK were faster than a Jedi and immune to Force attacks. And that's some serious speed to be faster than a Jedi.
Any mentions of this anywhere?
PostedWed Jan 05, 2005 2:11 pm
by Ekade
I'm not trying to be the spoiler here but has anyone read an account of a duel between a Teras Kasi Monk and a Jedi Knight in any books?
Does it matter?
I think Dariis' idea is a great "what if".
I know how the game resolves these things, but I'm particularly interested in how a TK would deal with being Force Pushed. Or are they so fast that they could dodge/block a lightsaber strike? What would they block it with if they used no weapons? Darth Maul was supposed to be a TKM, but he was also a Sith Lord.
They only saving grace that I could imagine is if TK were faster than a Jedi and immune to Force attacks. And that's some serious speed to be faster than a Jedi.
Any mentions of this anywhere?
I heard somewhere, and I admit "somewhere" is not always a reliable source, that TK were somewhat force sensitive themselves.
I guess your question borders on the topic, "How do you kill a Jedi when they have the ability to.. ?" That can be debated for ages.

PostedWed Jan 05, 2005 3:36 pm
by Isleh
I've been contemplating giving up my smuggler ways and running weapons for the Alliance. Not that I don't like playing a smuggler, I just want to move the story along.
Now that you are back Dariis, time to put some things in motion.
PostedWed Jan 05, 2005 4:22 pm
by Keer
Ekade wrote:I'm not trying to be the spoiler here but has anyone read an account of a duel between a Teras Kasi Monk and a Jedi Knight in any books?
Does it matter?
I think Dariis' idea is a great "what if".
"Does it matter" to whom? If I'm asking...then I guess it kinda matters to me, eh?
There's been alot of TK lore from aficionados in this thread and I'm wondering if perhaps any of them can share a mention here. That aim has no bounds on whether the idea is a great "What if?" or not....or whatever you're talking about.
Ekade wrote: I guess your question borders on the topic, "How do you kill a Jedi when they have the ability to.. ?" That can be debated for ages.

Borders on the topic...but not really what I'm asking, no.
And yes, it could be debated for ages, but that's not
my goal (not sure about
yours)
That's why I'm asking if anyone has ever read an account of a Jedi and a TK fighting a duel as I'm interested in seeing how the author would resolve certain issues. Clear?
PostedWed Jan 05, 2005 4:32 pm
by Krusshyk
Ok Keer, here is how a TKA would smote the jedi...
First, he would wave his hand in front of the jedi's face, a la Moe from the three stooges...naturally proceeding to gouge the jedi's eyes when he was sufficiently enthralled.
Then, the TKA would depants the previously stated jedi.
Having blinded and immobilized his enemy, the TKA would sucker punch the jedi in the kidney, stuff him in a steel drum, and roll him down a hill into a river. Everybody knows that Jedi's need air, too. (Episode 1? Obi-wan and Qui-gon had those handy dandy rebreather things when they got stranded on naboo?)
Well, that's how I would do it anyway.
PostedWed Jan 05, 2005 5:21 pm
by Dariis
there is an account of a Teras vs jedi duel. the battle lasted 45 mins and the Teras came out victorious. His name was Phow Ji. but the jedi knight in the duel had not used a lightsabre and it was an unarmed duel. darth maul was tkm and used the postures and his lightsabre together.
Most likly if a jedi had a sabre out the teras would lose, but im sure the reflexes of a Teras Kasi Master would be quick, and if they landed on blow to the jedi it would be a strong attack possibly allowing the teras to escape or win. there jedi claimed "shadows" were taking the lives of there jedi years ago, these "shadows" are rumored to be Teras Kasi.
PostedWed Jan 05, 2005 5:58 pm
by Krusshyk
Dariis, you mentioned them being "shadows"...
Maybe we are looking at this the wrong way. We assume that jedi are pretty uber in general right...so it stands to reason that at least ONE jedi would have fought a TKM in a straight up figh and won. Arguably, he would go tell his jedi buddies what happened and everyone would eventually learn about these mean guys who punch things...maybe the Teras Kasi never really went toe to toe with the jedi? More of a strike when they are unaware kinda thing. The TK have (rumored from what I understand) some kind of connection with the force, maybe they can use it to cloud their presence among jedi. And then, hop out of the shadow, lay the smack down, and then high tail it.
I dunno, but just a thought. It answers how a TK could beat the uberness of the Jedi I think.
PostedWed Jan 05, 2005 6:10 pm
by Yggdrasil
Del'tar Chagas wrote:Dariis, you mentioned them being "shadows"...
Maybe we are looking at this the wrong way. We assume that jedi are pretty uber in general right...so it stands to reason that at least ONE jedi would have fought a TKM in a straight up figh and won. Arguably, he would go tell his jedi buddies what happened and everyone would eventually learn about these mean guys who punch things...maybe the Teras Kasi never really went toe to toe with the jedi? More of a strike when they are unaware kinda thing. The TK have (rumored from what I understand) some kind of connection with the force, maybe they can use it to cloud their presence among jedi. And then, hop out of the shadow, lay the smack down, and then high tail it.
I dunno, but just a thought. It answers how a TK could beat the uberness of the Jedi I think.
Or maybe it's another "school" of Force use.
One where the lessons are rooted in reliance of one's own physical and spiritual self instead of more mechanical means (i.e. lightsabers).
There's more than ONE way to use something as vast as the Force, afterall. The Jedi way may be the flashier and more "popular" one...
PostedWed Jan 05, 2005 9:39 pm
by Dariis
take the nightsisters for example, they use the force to do things the Jedi never dreamed. The can walk on walls like a spider and event levitate with the force.
the Teräs Käsi dont believe in the force remember. they feel the Jedi are misusing their "inner strength" and are looking at it as an outside power, whereas the Teras gain their power from within. the teachnique known as Shenbit Bonecrusher is a lethal attack in the hands of a Teras Master. this would most like kill most beings including Jedi knights and other Teras masters in one execution.
also a Teras Kasi Monk is an observer of the Jedi, they didnt kill any jedi...just the ones who were turning to the aggressive side of their inner strength. the Teras knew of this darkerside from all he sith on their planet of palawa before the jedi destroyed it 4000 years ago because of the high concentration of sith. and Thus the Teras created their fighting skills to counter the Jedi if/when they were to meet again.
PostedThu Jan 06, 2005 3:33 am
by Nyase
Teris Kasi first appeared in the game. The explination they gave about it was that teris kasi artist did draw upon the force in some aspect. Just because they don't belive in teh force doesn't mean they can't draw upon it. I mean, look at those hippies in the black fleet crisis. They didn't believe in the force, but they coudl create massive illussions. At anyrate, if anyone wants, I'll get my RP books out, as well as the old Teris Kasi game manual and start posting stuff from em.