Get ready to change your characters

[Weyune]

Anyone know how they are going to handle the point shuffle? Like Jabe said he is Master TKA now, but the new reqs will be that that also requires 2 handed sword spec. Does that mean they are going to take master TK from him until he puts the neccessary points into 2-Handed?

And I know Isleh is Master Swordsman, but now she is probably going to have to choose to loos that or give up as far as she has gotten in TK BECAUSE the new prereq for Swordsman is gonna be 1-handed sword specialization as well as 2-Handed Swords

Im master Fencer, but the prereqs are different for that for some reson..being 1-handed sword and Unarmed. Go figure.

[Novall]

From what I understand, they are going to allow people to shuffle around their spend skillpoints.

Yes. You'll be allowed to /respec (re-specialize) and move your already spent points around like you want them ONE TIME ONLY.

TH mentioned this is a reply on that thread.

[Isleh]

People will be angry, yes. But I think it's just because their uberness is being knocked on. IMO, this equates to doctors having their buffs taken away. "What are doctors without their buffs?!" the masses may cry in dismay.

They're giving us a completely new game system to play. In case nobody else noticed, it's a lot like WoW. Wind ups, cool downs... One-use stims are similar to potions. They won't make doctors any less viable in the field any more than healers are useless in that game.

What I'm curious about is this line here... "Medical crafting will be handled by the crafting line in Medic as well as Bio-Engineers." Awhile ago I guessed that crafting in doctor would have to be addressed due to the combat rebalance, and there it is. If they're including Bio-Engineers too, well hot damn...we're getting close to affecting all professions in this rebalance. Imagine that.

I'll be interested to see how the Doctor skill trees will be re-addressed and how viable Doctor skills will be in the field. I personally will be excited to see the upcoming changes, and while you guys are upset about your stacked defenses being gone, or your templates being ruined--remember that everyone else will be in the same position as you are.

We're all starting again with what is basically a new game and a brand new combat system. Maybe in the current system the new template would be "useless" in your mind. However, in the new system, they're designing it specifically for all templates to work and be balanced.

I'm wondering how the entertainer professions point values will be affected.

[Lok'i Vidaar]

Yes. You'll be allowed to /respec (re-specialize) and move your already spent points around like you want them ONE TIME ONLY.

TH mentioned this is a reply on that thread.

If this is the case, you could essentially grind out a bunch of proffesions before the CU, and then make a new template...

/starts macro grinding the hell out of crafting proffesions...

[Skarr]

by reviewing the list more, it is evening the playing field quite more...

all shooting professions have to now get the ranged support tree (makes sense)

all melee professions got hit harder (which they should cuz they whoop on ranged professions easily) with having to learn more skills to master...and they also decreased melee range down to 6m

squad leader now needs more skills too, but who plays squad leader anyway?

the only profs that got easier were commando and bh (which removed master marks) and any commando or bh can tell you, with no melee deef whatsoever in these profs, they are the easiest pushovers to anyone with any melee skills...a commando doesn't need to master rifles and carbines and pistols if hey never use em, and a BH could drop the carb/pistol/rifle lines, but they will lose a lot of accuracy and speed to do it...

[Nyase]

but who plays squad leader anyway?

I resent that. :P

At anyrate, acording to your listing there, SL doesn't need more, they actually require less. No longer do they have to grind out camping. (which I did before you could craft the xp away. God that sucked.)

I'm glad to see this doesn't affect any of my proffession choices. I could always give up the camping line now, but I've had it so long think I'll just keep it anyway. Tents might actually serve a purpose in game one day.

[Iri]

Eh, don't get me wrong, I'm excited and curious to see the changes...it is just a little unsettling when your profession looks like it is going to change so drastically...but unsettling is not always a bad thing. :-D

[KirtViza]

Eh, don't get me wrong, I'm excited and curious to see the changes...it is just a little unsettling when your profession looks like it is going to change so drastically...but unsettling is not always a bad thing. :-D

The only problem I see is that SOE is feeding the melee's with more BH help. I mean for crying out loud you want to even the playing field then tell me why my blaster cant get through but some crackheads hands can ((meaning throuh a glowstick) And Novall if what I hope happens..you wont hunt jedi I believe it will be moved to master for all PC hunts. sorry

I think making it easier to get BH and commando is stupid those are suppose to be the heavy hitters and blah blah, yet we arent.

[Novall]

Eh, don't get me wrong, I'm excited and curious to see the changes...it is just a little unsettling when your profession looks like it is going to change so drastically...but unsettling is not always a bad thing. :-D

The only problem I see is that SOE is feeding the melee's with more BH help. I mean for crying out loud you want to even the playing field then tell me why my blaster cant get through but some crackheads hands can ((meaning throuh a glowstick) And Novall if what I hope happens..you wont hunt jedi I believe it will be moved to master for all PC hunts. sorry

I think making it easier to get BH and commando is stupid those are suppose to be the heavy hitters and blah blah, yet we arent.

I seriously doubt its gonna be moved. The whole reason that its not at MBH is because the DEVs know that there is no MBH thats competiton with a high lvl knight and above. The ONLY way they would put jedi hunting to MBH is if they gave BH's some melee or melee defence. Master lightsaber makes a MBH look like shit atm honestly. You know I'm right to.

Why do you think I got rid of BH? Its a crap profession by itself because it is defenceless to a jedi. Something to think about is that after the CU, eyeshot will be gone. They said in that write-up that all DOT attacks are going to be health damage since thats the only bar your gonna have...so eyeshot's gonna turn into something like ear or nose shot

I dont see em making MBH the only jedi hunter unless they add some melee in there or atleast protection from it.

[X'an Shin]

So wait a sec.. I gotta give up some skill points to keep what I have because I don't have the pre-reqs?

Jabe

Bingo!!

This screws me because now I have to have ranged weapon support too. right now I need brawler 4 and Pistols 4 for smuggler and pistoleer...now I'm gonna need Ranged weapons support 4 too, and that might change as well if they mess with the pre-reqs for smuggler.

Well, pray they lose that lame-assed Brawler 4 pre-req for Smuggler then, and it's a wash.

[Jaminos]

Well now I can drop all that extra marksman I did not need so I can be more free to work with BH.

[Sepiv]

This is bad news. I think after holding TKM and Master Doctor (which sounds like it's going to become even less "who cares") I had maybe half the required skill points for this 2-handed sword BS. I'll come back after baby and be so pissed off I fear.

[KirtViza]

Eh, don't get me wrong, I'm excited and curious to see the changes...it is just a little unsettling when your profession looks like it is going to change so drastically...but unsettling is not always a bad thing. :-D

The only problem I see is that SOE is feeding the melee's with more BH help. I mean for crying out loud you want to even the playing field then tell me why my blaster cant get through but some crackheads hands can ((meaning throuh a glowstick) And Novall if what I hope happens..you wont hunt jedi I believe it will be moved to master for all PC hunts. sorry

I think making it easier to get BH and commando is stupid those are suppose to be the heavy hitters and blah blah, yet we arent.

I seriously doubt its gonna be moved. The whole reason that its not at MBH is because the DEVs know that there is no MBH thats competiton with a high lvl knight and above. The ONLY way they would put jedi hunting to MBH is if they gave BH's some melee or melee defence. Master lightsaber makes a MBH look like shit atm honestly. You know I'm right to.

Why do you think I got rid of BH? Its a crap profession by itself because it is defenceless to a jedi. Something to think about is that after the CU, eyeshot will be gone. They said in that write-up that all DOT attacks are going to be health damage since thats the only bar your gonna have...so eyeshot's gonna turn into something like ear or nose shot

I dont see em making MBH the only jedi hunter unless they add some melee in there or atleast protection from it.

I agree and disagree with you.

1. ATM a knight can easily take down any BH BUFFED!!
2. Saberblock makes Ranged look like target practice for 5 year olds
3. Insider info has informed me that saberblock may drop to as low as 20% for non ranked knights.
4. MBH should be somthing worth having and have a reason for it, not just some +10 to spd and acc for weapons.
5. If you give MBH PC bounties, you keep it where t belongs, as a RANGED profession. Allowing Melee to be BH is stupid I mean come on if you read the books and look at the movies Just about all BH's are ranged. WHY? Cause the further you are away from your target the higher the chances you get to live.

Yes eye shot will leave..wow like I care Right now all I would like to see is MBH be worth somthing moer then a title I want to walk into a cantina and be feared again. I remember being a rebel BH in the old days (( 2months from launch)) ad walking to Bestine from AH, with groups of rebels and attacking bestine and not owning everyone but not getting beat up from some stick 20m's away.

[Sai'nu]

At first this sounds really bad to me. I don't have Unarmed 4 and yet I want to keep Master Fencer and I'm going to be screwed if I'm not ready for this?

But when I step back and see that, wait, they've actually taken out the need to master a profession to pursue other professions (in an attempt to gear the game toward Ranged combat, which isn't a bad thing since it 'is' star wars); I think, well, this isn't 'so' bad.

But, they really need to think about the 'why' with some of their requirements still. Unarmed 4 still seems a bit much if all your going to do is play with swords. Or be a smuggler. There isn't really an insentive, or purpose, for doing it except to curb some in game mechanic that'd be better solved by reducing the ammount of skill points you can have if it's that big of a problem about having 3 masteries with one toon.

*shrugs* I just don't get what their thinking sometimes.

[Novall]

The only problem I see is that SOE is feeding the melee's with more BH help. I mean for crying out loud you want to even the playing field then tell me why my blaster cant get through but some crackheads hands can ((meaning throuh a glowstick) And Novall if what I hope happens..you wont hunt jedi I believe it will be moved to master for all PC hunts. sorry

I think making it easier to get BH and commando is stupid those are suppose to be the heavy hitters and blah blah, yet we arent.

I seriously doubt its gonna be moved. The whole reason that its not at MBH is because the DEVs know that there is no MBH thats competiton with a high lvl knight and above. The ONLY way they would put jedi hunting to MBH is if they gave BH's some melee or melee defence. Master lightsaber makes a MBH look like shit atm honestly. You know I'm right to.

Why do you think I got rid of BH? Its a crap profession by itself because it is defenceless to a jedi. Something to think about is that after the CU, eyeshot will be gone. They said in that write-up that all DOT attacks are going to be health damage since thats the only bar your gonna have...so eyeshot's gonna turn into something like ear or nose shot

I dont see em making MBH the only jedi hunter unless they add some melee in there or atleast protection from it.

I agree and disagree with you.

1. ATM a knight can easily take down any BH BUFFED!!
2. Saberblock makes Ranged look like target practice for 5 year olds
3. Insider info has informed me that saberblock may drop to as low as 20% for non ranked knights.
4. MBH should be somthing worth having and have a reason for it, not just some +10 to spd and acc for weapons.
5. If you give MBH PC bounties, you keep it where t belongs, as a RANGED profession. Allowing Melee to be BH is stupid I mean come on if you read the books and look at the movies Just about all BH's are ranged. WHY? Cause the further you are away from your target the higher the chances you get to live.

Yes eye shot will leave..wow like I care Right now all I would like to see is MBH be worth somthing moer then a title I want to walk into a cantina and be feared again. I remember being a rebel BH in the old days (( 2months from launch)) ad walking to Bestine from AH, with groups of rebels and attacking bestine and not owning everyone but not getting beat up from some stick 20m's away.

If they take down Jedi's saber bloack to just 20%, there going to have to add something else to give them protection as thats the ONLY protection they have from any combat profession. They have 0 melee protection, which is why TKM's take em out without a whole lot of trouble.

heh, if more of this game went by the books/movies...I'd agree with you. If they change Bh to make it more BH-realistic (A ranged master with a light smattering of melee moves for tight spots.) then ya, I would thing they would move jedi bounties to MBH. I'm not holding by breath to see if they do though