So.. what goodies does a melee char need post-CU?

[Dariis]

yes the goal is to kill your enemy but master swords/brawler wont be lvl 80 will it? so it might not be as trong in combat as you want. but I dont mean to discourage a respec and trying it out i am not master swords and so I dont know how good it is

[Ekade]

one finds one when one finishes one's last jabba mission... 1and1are1eleven? <------ to many ones Ekade?

Yeah, but dont you have to turn that in to finish the misison?

I don't think I have one and I did the themepark twice with Ekade. I'll have to double check my houses and stuff.

What is the DPS on a rantok?

to keep many rantok swords, you put the sword in your backpack, then cancel the mission, then go and take it again, repeat

I just checked the rantok on my wall and it was only 330 or so max dmg

Only 330!? If that is DPS that is friggin uber for a fencer weapon. But you said max dmg.. so what is the DPS?

[Ekade]

yes the goal is to kill your enemy but master swords/brawler wont be lvl 80 will it? so it might not be as trong in combat as you want. but I dont mean to discourage a respec and trying it out i am not master swords and so I dont know how good it is

Ekade will never see level 80.

I am just trying to do the best I can given my self-imposed limitations of Dancer and Melee. I know I am a gimp, I just want to be the best gimp I can be.

[Dariis]

the only good gimp is a dead gimp...or is that Imp :P

[Ekade]

the only good gimp is a dead gimp...or is that Imp :P

/denyservice Dariis


<grumbles> wise-ass teras kasi pikeman uber punk </grumbles>

[Dariis]

dont make me go rifle and /cover just to watch lol

[Skorixor]

yes the goal is to kill your enemy but master swords/brawler wont be lvl 80 will it? so it might not be as trong in combat as you want. but I dont mean to discourage a respec and trying it out i am not master swords and so I dont know how good it is

Ekade will never see level 80.

I am just trying to do the best I can given my self-imposed limitations of Dancer and Melee. I know I am a gimp, I just want to be the best gimp I can be.

just remember, if you group with someone thats cmbt lvl 80, that makes you a lvl 80 as well, no matter what your skills are

[Hashum]

yes the goal is to kill your enemy but master swords/brawler wont be lvl 80 will it? so it might not be as trong in combat as you want. but I dont mean to discourage a respec and trying it out i am not master swords and so I dont know how good it is

Ekade will never see level 80.

I am just trying to do the best I can given my self-imposed limitations of Dancer and Melee. I know I am a gimp, I just want to be the best gimp I can be.

just remember, if you group with someone thats cmbt lvl 80, that makes you a lvl 80 as well, no matter what your skills are

Yes grouping is great. The other night we had a group of 5 and we were pretty easily taking out everything in sight. Until that one Baz Nitch lair, I forget what CL they were but they tore us up pretty good.

[Ekade]

So... Any input on my original questions?

[Dariis]

well foir food i know the olde melee def food still gives melee defense just now its +80

what ever can raise you speed/accuracy/meleeor ranged def for BE stuff is prolly best

armor I think get the rebel battle armor (looks better than padded i think)

[Sai'nu]

I've been pipping out of anything to do with CU; Now that I've toyed with it; I'm still upset about a lot of things. But, Basically I'd like to bow in here and ask just what 'has' everyone done with Melee?

I'll explain my perdicament here... I'm struggling with Master Brawler and Master Fencer with some FS/some Dancer. I took Novice TK (for the quick meditate heal) and Novice Pike with the box that gives Spin Attack (hoping I could still capture the old feel of taking out multiple opponents solo). I discovered that, unless their about 2 lvls below me and no more than 2 at a time, I really can't do this. My emphesis here is on trying to find the fastest playing solo melee combo I could do with possibly keeping Master Fencer. (I don't really care about being lvl 80. Just want to be a fast, heavy, dmg dealer, keep my 'fencer' personage' and be able to do missons quickly while still pulling in about 6k a mission if possible. Grouping is something I do 'sometimes' when I want to do it is how I've always played these.)

On an up note I've noticed with my old Metalkid made Ryyk Blade (sliced before CU and converted to 400dps after my mods); That I can solo what I'll call 'half-ass' expediently doing faction missions near Noc. Thanks to Isleh for suggesting that; But, sadly, I can't exchange the FP for XP anymore (not sure when they took that out either). But, again, the MF and MB set up just 'feels' slow now. And I'm looking for alternatives.

The combo that I've been using to try and make Fencer work is 'Break Armor', 'Bleed', then 'Body Hit'. I try to Center before combat. When I toyed with Pike I through in a 'Sweep' and 'Leg Hit' too. With a 'Blind' or 'Melee Strike' for Ranged npcs when it got hairy. (took me about 3hrs solo to make 300k/ 30k in one hand/combat this way 'solo')

Like I said... Skill point wise... I've got about 15sp left right now. I'm just looking for input at this point. And, any suggestions on what a low lvl brawler concept would be good for Batak since I'm still stuck with Master Merchant and Artisan with him for awhile.

Vreese: MF, MB, Pike 0100, NTK, Ent 0044, Dancer 0122, FS 6skill points filled, and 15 skill points left. (thoughts on adjustments?)

Batak: MMerchant,MArtisan(till I can get an AV powerplant), MB, TK0111,.... and I already forgot what else he has... FS 2 skill points I think.

This is my 'Last Ditch' at finding something that works.

Ekade, there is food that Isleh mailed me about I'll send that to you... and Bio clothes seem to make up for some things... but it looks like an Ubese Shirt and Mabari Belt (pre-nerf if ya can get'em) with possibly an Ubese Bandolier... are still the best options. My skill mods on mine 'seem' to still be working post-CU.

Sorry for the jumbled mess, didn't want to start a new thread, and I'm a little frustrated right now. Make that... a lot.

[Ekade]

I was much happier once I gave up Fencer. Then again, I never tried it with a 400 dps rykk blade (( I was playing with a 175 DPS converted short curves sword)). That will make a huge difference for you.

I took heavy sword for more direct damage potential. So far it is working for me. I feel like I can contribute to the group hunt effort, even though I am a gimpy level 56.


I am still trying to figure out good combos and how to work my action bar to it's fullest potential. I tend to use Armor Break, Improved Crit, Head hit for killing. I still feel like my attacks are slow.. but I think that is universal to the CU.

Actually duelling is a great way to work on your combos. You and a partner can take turns beating on eachother, trying different things to see what you can do to inflict good damage quickly.

[Jabe Adaks]

Fencer might be a good damage dealer... I don't know for sure. You have to look at a profession based on how good the specials are and what other attributes it might offer. With fencer most all the specials are based on DoTs. My guess is they are not as powerful since they have the effects. DoTs are something I have never given much attention to. I don't think they often become the deciding factor in a battle although they do help. If DoTs stacked it might be a different story. Its one of the few professions where if you have two of them in a group - their effects don't stack and and individual fencer is less distinguished.

I'm just not big on DoTs. :/

Jabe

[Sai'nu]

I took Duox's advice, in part, and am trying to do something a lil different.

MF, I'm convinced now, is a must for me. I was counting on my combat screen when I used my DoT bleed and it 'did' stack. But it was a slow gradual thing. If I hit once... it did dmg+the initial bleed. So let's say 140 for the first 'tap'. about 6 seconds later he get's a 106 bleed. However, I was able to hit him with enough of the 'Bleed' attacks to keep that 106 starting to be a lil steady. The trick being that you can't really use the bleed attack as a 'one time' use hit. You've got to stick him with it a few times to make the attack worth it. 'Me', I'm draining my green bar quick now... but, with the Fencer Weapon and now pairing up Swordsman for a headshot. I think Fencer may have just been reborn for me. It still feels slow... But if I can make 200k in credits grinding and still 'nearly' cap my xp... that's essentially what I wanted. And I couldn't do it with just MF and that pissed me off.

Anyway, I can't actually 'do' what Duox suggested and keep Dancer. He suggested I keep MF,MB, and go MS with my TK at 4000 with whatever else I had. So, I'm looking at 'some Swordsman with the meditate line of TK I think. Oddly, I'm finding, despite the 'hit and run' set up of Fencer... This is giving me more of a 'hit and stay' feel. I'm actually starting to wonder just how well I would hold up in a group now.

And, unless I see a better weapon.. I'm deffinately thinking about dropping that anti decay kit on that Ryyk blade now. 'Bladesinger at heart' here. And thanks for the input.

[xyryn]

I'm a master fencer/master dancer. I have enuff scout to be able to harvest and play tag. Like others, I find the DoT to be basically useless unless I'm hunting solo...the ranged weapon users will kill off the prey before the DoT has time to do anything but splatter droplets, etc.

On the other hand, I can follow one attack with another immediately, and I have at least two attacks that have cool moves. Still experimenting with the cool moves

Twin has suggested that I try the two handed curved blade...it can be used one handed. So, if I can find one, I will be trying it tonite.

Has anyone figured out how to determine where prey is really standing ...other than following the pets which can apparently see the AI reality that we cannot?