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PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 1:26 am
by Illbleed
Dwilah wrote:nnNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't equip my RIS or my KYD21!!!!!!!!!

/sob
Yeah, I got screwed too. I can't wear my Bio-linked Katarn armor either. It now has a "Battle" armor designation and I'm a Jedi. I believe if you've quested for this before you could wear it regardless of class. Now, I'm just plain screwed.

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 1:40 am
by snado
ouchie... thats seriously gotta suck for all of you who rely on armor like that, my sympathies to you.

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 2:31 am
by warsloth
anyone else notice there are unfamiliar faces rolling through the starports, and the server was packed before it crashed? Is there a large influx of eager try-overers?

anywho... I have tried playing around with my new combat abilities, and it seems like they are trying to make it harder to use more than one special in combat. it stinks that you have to sacrifice being able to aim when you are switching specials, then I lose track of my target...

All my weapons require CL 80, so I had to dig and find some junkers.
Spy for whatever reason uses battle armor... makes no sense to me.

I have more to say... mostly gripes. maybe after a bit of use I will like it.

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 2:52 am
by Dwilah
I don't rely on my armor, it just makes me look pretty...and those things were special gifts. :(

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 3:49 am
by Revis Xizi
Where to start...

Only two incaps now?
Okay, so I get incapped, I stand up, try to run away and get about 5 feet before that same critter incaps me again because the combat is too fast to even give me a chance to run away to safety to heal myself.

The Interface
Why the hell is the camera behind my shoulder? Why can't I change it back to the old way? Why do I have to keep using that damn ALT key instead of changing my keymap/interface settings!!!!

The "Experience"
Okay, so getting 1k per kill for Jedi XP was bad enough. Now, they lower it down to about 300 xp per kill for something my own level. GREAT! Now it's going to take me longer to grind a regular profession as it would my Jedi pre CU2!

Enhancements (or more UI complaints...pick one)
What enhancements is SOE referring to? Giving us one skill bar with 12 slots instead of the old 24? That's great for the new 4x combat speed. Gives me plently of time to get that Stim D out of my pack and actually use the damn thing, eat some food, pull out my speeder, or use a skill that I couldn't fit on my bar. Or, why do I have to click on the ability to put it in the glowy window to the right, then right click to use it? Why can't I just click the ability and keep fighting!

Jedi
Okay, so I became a Jedi one week before NGE. All I get is some ugly ass robe, a ugly brown crystal, the holo-blue effect which does NOTHING?

Creature Hander
Okay, today we remove one of the most interesting professions next to Jedi in the game. Oh, and bio-engineers are outta here as well because there's no use for you anymore.

Teras Kasi
Also removing the most fun profession in the game in my opinion. If there was a profession that one could play but could perform close to a Jedi in terms of some similar abilities, this was it.

*Yes, I did play on the Test Center. It wasn't bad with a new character, but with my Jedi, this is disturbing.

SWG = Sucky Water-downed Game?

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 3:55 am
by Jabe Adaks
I love it so far... The combat is way faster so you'll probably get the same XP over time. I can't wait to get some PvP on tonight.

Jabe

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 4:03 am
by Revis Xizi
I love it so much that if SOE doesn't do something SOON, I'll be $14.95 a month richer!


It's CRAPTASTICLY FUN!

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 6:06 am
by Zannon
Ok...here are my initial reactions:

1. Smuggler has some cool as stuff it can do. "Call a favor" lets you call an NPC smuggler to help you out in combat. Smugglers can also heal themselves for +1800 at level 80.

2. Chat is craptastic (to steal Snado's word)...I open about 5 windows and then jump every 5 mins.

3. A good number of my pistols poofed and the rest are spy-only.

4. Dueling was fun once you got used to hitting the number keys to switch up the specials.

5. XP blows because the missions you get from terminal appear broken and only give you level 46 missions when you're level 80.

6. having to use the "`" key to open the radial menu is annoying.

I'll think of more after I get some sleep.

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 7:03 am
by Jabe Adaks
Bugs, bugs, bugs... Hopefully they will do lots of hotfixes in the coming days. Other than that its pretty sweet.

Jabe

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 7:19 am
by Revis Xizi
I honestly don't know what you're smoking Jabe, but you should share some with me. In my opinion, this is quite possibly the biggest pile of Hutt sh*t I've ever seen.

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 7:26 am
by Dwilah
--I don't mind combat in and of itself. The fast pace is fun, blah blah blah.

--Medic is really disappointing to me personally. Maybe I'm missing the point of what the class is supposed to be now, but the timers are really long, I'm having a massive amount of trouble healing myself, and flat out I don't like having offensive abilities as a major part of medic. It doesn't strike me as being very supportive. I also don't like that there isn't a basic bacta shot type heal or a basic ranged heal--it's all ranged healing or healing over time. It just feels really different than what I was able to do before. I am going to give it another try, though, maybe with an alt on another server starting from the ground up and see if it makes more sense.

--Many things irritating about the UI can be fixed partially, if you mess with it enough.

--Chat isn't too bad...I'm still jumping all over the place here and there, but as Jabe suggested during the TC phase, remembering to type /say before your words and typing /emote before your emotes will help the transition considerably.

--Figured out how to get waypoints on screen, moved all the stuff in the window back to where it used to be (radar in the bottom corner), figured out how to get all my chat tabs back, etc...the level of OMFG WTF !!!1 went way down.

--Vendors are pretty borked at the moment. A lot of the game is. I think that's to be expected when you overlap one on top of the other. Just remember to send lots of /bug reports in, guys.

--I'm excited about the changes and overall like I said I like the new combat style...just not too sure where I fit in on it personally with the iconic profession thing.

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 8:50 am
by Yala
14/15 were my tunes as well but they aren't high end, 18/19 for the pre NGE high end tunes.

No comment on my once glorious jedi and please excuse me, there's a lvl 35 Stormtrooper kiting me to death atm ROFL omg... Im happy I kept all my guns...

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 2:44 pm
by Jabe Adaks
Revis Xizi wrote:I honestly don't know what you're smoking Jabe, but you should share some with me. In my opinion, this is quite possibly the biggest pile of Hutt sh*t I've ever seen.
SOE shipped out big phatties to all the Elder Jedi... you'll get yours soon. I been somking some phat blunts the last coupla days. Tha force is all up in dis bitch.

Jabe

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 3:48 pm
by IagoBoom
Now, my cursor MUST stay on the nalargon to play it. All RP is out while performing with that blasted thing, I can't even look around the room.

Some entertainers are having issues with their professions because they respec'ed to the new system...and have a CL. Macros are still doable for us, and inspiration buffs require the performer to be at the keyboard (until someone writes a macro that gives an inspiration buff to /cycletargetout).

My veteran "rewards" are unusable by an entertainer and untradeable.

Chat is slowly becomming something I can handle.

If anyone loses their chat window, it's ctrl enter to bring it back (most likely), just as it was pre-NGE, but it's not obvious when it happens.

PostedWed Nov 16, 2005 8:53 pm
by Sai'nu
I just got in and.....

IT ROCKS MY BAWLS!!!!!

Ok, the camera thing... I guess it'll always center a little off of your shoulder on screen. But you basically can set it back to normal gameplay by doing the following:

Go to options. Select Keymap. Then take the checkmark off of the box that says Chase camera! BAM! You can watch yourself kick ass or get your ass kicked pre-NGE style.

Manipulating Items is a pain in the ass but I think I can get used to this.

I'm still looking at how to make chat bearable. My arrows still work for movement. So, I may try to deselect Enable Modal Chat to see if that sets it back to just type to talk instead of fumble with ALT to talk. I never did like WASD movement. Trust me... if there is a way to make it feel like the old interface... I'm going to find it for ya.

On Combat... it seems wither or not I'm anywhere near anything... if I use my heal... I'm in combat thereafter. *shrug* I don't quite get that one. And working with only one special does kinda blow... but I'm thinking we're only suppose to use these minimally and concentrate more on click fighting. So far it seems to be working well.

More to come. I've got tons to check on.

Batty