Player Bounty Forum

[Ekade]

And to your last question I don't think anyone should be removed from the list unless they request it. Maybe you have a lot to do and don't want to be a Mark for a week. Thats perfectly fine. Adding and Subtracting all the time will be more of a big strain than anything.

What I meant by this what a mechanism to prevent and endless series of attackers. I could see myself at S&V night with a line of hunters out the door.

I think the answer to this is found in the mechanism for establishing a bounty.

Once a bounty is posted, what happens then?
- Is the Bounty given to one Hunter upon an agreement with the Client?
- Is the Bounty posted and then "up for grabs" for all registered hunters?

Other scenario ideas:
- Hidden bounties. The exact identity of the bounty is unknown. Clues are given. This would work well in the "up for grabs" method above.

[Seret Sajet]

Ah, well then....

They should be both.

I think most bounties should be up for grabs as I imagine they are in this universe. The Employer would want the best odds anyway.

But if you're a damn good BH then someone may want to hire you specifically. Maybe they're worried some other BH will screw up but know you'll do the job right.

Its all at the Employers discretion. If they want to post an "open" bounty and 10 BHs want that payday then who can stop 'em.

[Lok'i Vidaar]

Its all at the Employers discretion. If they want to post an "open" bounty and 10 BHs want that payday then who can stop 'em.

their ya go and that is the challenge for the BH's!!!

This is sooo awesome.. and with this idea.. you don't actually have to be a BH to RP a BH....

I personally can't do it... but someone like say... Seret... who can kick people's ass into tommorow with that damn sword could definitly RP a BH and finish the job...

I am sooo into this!

[Hashum]

Ekade and Seret you've brought up several great issues here that I'd not thought of. The alternate Ego if you will seems the easiest route as a short term fix, but at the same time you don't want someone every 5 minutes posting a new bounty on a new ego. This of course is only a problem with the death bounties. RP will be much better for bounties where another character may want the player brought back alive for questioning or something. With a character like Zannon I could easily see this working very well for his character's story line. I think with either of these options though there would have to be communication before hand. As in if I wanted to place a bounty on seducturess Ekade we'd have to draw up the RP before posting the bounty. We'd give a little history on what happened and the reason for the bounty. The time factor may cut down on the number of bounties that get posted. And I think that's more in line with continuity. Frankly I don't think we should be having 5 bounties a day or anything like that. Maybe the first few days just because it's new but long term I'd think a bounty every other day would be a lot.

As to the who's bounty is it I think there should be a mixture and that's totally up to the person placing the bounty. It could be something special that may require a special bounty hunter, or it maybe something someone wants taken care of ASAP at which point it could be up for grabs. I do think there should be instances with 5 bounty hunters all after the same mark. However if this is the case then anyone looking for the mark should have to sign the bounty in the forum. This will allow the other bounty hunters to track who's after the mark and often times a BH would be aware of this, such as the bounty on Solo in episode V. Also once the first BH has made contact and fulfilled the bounty it would allow them to send a tell so the person isn't accidentally greifed because someone hadn't checked the boards to see it was closed.

I'm also hoping enough people would sign up that no one person would be effected by continuity too much. But if you wanted to use an alter ego then you could sign up as the alter ego. Giving you the freedom to draw up your own story line and then RP the bounty when you're in the mood for that kind of content. This prevents your main character from losing continuity or effecting relationships with the BH. This would also prevent there from being 100 bounties on Ekade (sorry to single you out) or her alt ego at any given time.

If you wanted your main character to be eligible for this content you could work out an RP storyline where you were targeted and taken out but it actually wasn't a fatal wound and the BH was a little messy by not checking. You then go into hiding to recover. Not something that could happen all the time but might make a good story for specific people. And for main character targets their should be failures for us. Say someone wants the mayor assassinated, well this would be a good RP where the mark is missed due to security and the BH is captured, then due to the publicity the bounty is pulled for fear of the actual brains behind it being caught himself.

Again in a little while I'll try to organize everything we've gone over into a sort of BH Guide for player bounties. Then we could get some more feedback as this is all excellent for working out the specifics.

[Ekade]

OOH! I like how this is shaping up.

Hunted options:
- Will register as a candidate.
- Can opt to create RP for bounty posting with client
- Can post a couple of "identities" to be used in the RP (i.e. Ekade the Seductress, Ekade the Rebel Agent, etc.)

Client options:
- Can choose a Hunted from the list
- May choose "Open Bounty" or hire a specific hunter.
- Will create a Bounty.
- Can use the Hunted to co-write the RP. Hunted will be aware that they are being hunted.
- Can create the RP on their own using one of the posted "identities". The hunted will not be aware that they are being hunted in this scenario.

Bounty Hunters:
- Will take bounties
- Provide proof of completion (we can use the honor system here.. but if you guys think sceenies are cool, I am fine with that too)

I personally can't do it... but someone like say... Seret... who can kick people's ass into tommorow with that damn sword could definitly RP a BH and finish the job...

Unless of course you happen to be a profession that can eat Swordsmen for breakfast. =P

I agree Lok'i.. I am soooo into this too.

[Hashum]

Ok, I've started typing this up for another post to get this even more refined. Now from this post I'm under the impression that anyone may register as a bounty hunter not just bounty hunters?

Ekade another good option would be contacting a bounty hunter guild and allowing the CO to assign bounties to it's members based on the given task. I.E. someone wants a TKM taken out, well then you don't want to send a master bounty hunter after them, and this could allow for a great RP for guilds like MERCS to create their own ranking system for it's members. An opinion from the MERCS as to if they would enjoy that type of bounty would be helpful, if this isn't something they're interested in we can stick with the formats we've got going.

[Seret Sajet]

To add to the rules we may want only one bounty per mark at a time no matter how many alter-egos they have. We could up this to 2 or 3 but I think we should leave that up to the mark. This could make them very busy and take up any other gaming they have planned. Lets not overload the marks.

Hashum has a good point, Bounties should not be just Kill Bounties. You could request the person alive or just that the BH brings back the money the mark owes for a cut. Creativity isn't just welcome in this idea, its appreciated.

I think Ekade is right, we can just use the honor system for kills. If down the road we run into a problem with BHs saying they completed a job and marks saying otherwise that turn into fights and flame wars and other such nasty things then we will put a Proof system into place. But I'm sure with the group we have now no one is going to cheat..... right?

So here's a quick format for posting yourself as a Alter Ego Mark

Mark: Silias Photon
Player: Seret Sajet

Background: A nefarious theif who is known to hang out in the Tatooine system and pilfer Hutt cargo at stardocks in major cities. Silias is both wanted by the Hutts and the Imperials (for some missing Imperial Weapon shipments.) He's sly and knows how to hide himself well. He is also known to have mastered the art of two-handed swordfighting.

Now we have a Mark, here's an example of a post from the Client

Bounty Mark: Silias Photon
Client: Zannon
Reward: 200K
Type: (Open)

That bastard Silias snagged a shipment of copper I had coming through Mos Espa to Lok. That shipment cost me over a million credits. Find me my shipment and return it to me and I will pay 200K. What you do with Silias is up to you but I'll throw in 50K if you make sure he doesn't bother me again. Be creative.

Now at this point the BH should not reply UNLESS he/she was asked for specifically. Then he/she can respond publically. The next step is for the BH to find his mark and complete the job.

Silias can reply to this thread to either taunt, beg or bargain with Zannon to remove the bounty. After the job is done the BH can reply to let them know the job is done and arrange a meeting so he/she can get paid.


Oh, and thanks for the words of confidence Lok'i but I get my ass handed to me in PvP. Swordsmen is not so good against the Fencers and TKs.

Now,

[Ekade]

don't want someone every 5 minutes posting a new bounty on a new ego

Yes!! This was my concern too.

Here is my suggestion:

- Victims submit a profile for their alter ego.

A Client will claim this Victim profile, and post a bounty. No other client can claim this Victim profile.

Problems:
How do we make this claiming system fair? Will it work out due to economics? It costs money to place a bounty.


As far as truly IC bounties in regards to the victim's "main" character... I think these exist outside this system as a pure RP thing.

[Seret Sajet]

I say first come first serve. Now if 2 or more people post a bounty on the same Alter-Ego then the last 2 to post would just hold off until the first bounty is complete.

Keepin' it simple.

[Hashum]

I love the format, I'm going to put that in directly if you don't mind so as to help the reader. I agree about the number of outstanding marks. I think the edit function could come in handy where once a mark was taken from the list and the mission complete the mark could remove that alter ego from the list by editing their post and adding closed or striking through the name if that is possible.

As to the honor code, the mark could actually be the one to post to the forum that they were in fact eliminated if that was the desired result. I should hopefully have this typed up in the next hour or so for everyone to review. But keep the posts going as I'm checking it frequently...as I'm sure you can tell

[Ekade]

Yes!! Seret's example is exactly what I was thinking in regards to how the Victim profile submission and Bounty placing occurs.

First come first serve is fine.

So the communication Objects we need are:
- Profile Msg
- Bounty Msg
- RP recounts (optional)

Process:
- Victim posts Profile Msg, making them eligable for hunting.
- Client responds to Profile Msg. First come first serve. This Locks the Profile.
- Client posts Bounty Msg. Included: Credit Amount, Name (or clues), brief writeup for RP
- Hunter replies to Bounty Msg upon successful completion.
- Payment

This process is simple and can be tweaked as needed as time goes on.

[Novall]

Ok, I've started typing this up for another post to get this even more refined. Now from this post I'm under the impression that anyone may register as a bounty hunter not just bounty hunters?

Ekade another good option would be contacting a bounty hunter guild and allowing the CO to assign bounties to it's members based on the given task. I.E. someone wants a TKM taken out, well then you don't want to send a master bounty hunter after them, and this could allow for a great RP for guilds like MERCS to create their own ranking system for it's members. An opinion from the MERCS as to if they would enjoy that type of bounty would be helpful, if this isn't something they're interested in we can stick with the formats we've got going.

Well, the good thing about MERCS is that all of us would be registered hunters (Minus our small group of informants/plants).

We sill continue to maintain a perfect record of jobs completed :P I took Ceka with me on the Af'ecks bounty, and I think that got him hooked If hunters are going to compete with us...then there going to be in some fairly big competition...and on open bounties, were not afraid to kick a hunter in the teeth if the pay is right.

So those of you who freelance had better be weary...if you see a Mercenary on your bounty, then theres another at your back.

[Lok'i Vidaar]

I.. Love.. This!!!

Hope this gets going asap...

So.. How do you (Novall) get paid to BH people.. have you been contacted to actually get someone for real or is everything you have done been IC?

I truly hope SOE finally does something so players can really place bounties on other players... with a system like this for BH terminals... that would ROCK!!!

[Seret Sajet]

Well, the good thing about MERCS is that all of us would be registered hunters (Minus our small group of informants/plants).

We sill continue to maintain a perfect record of jobs completed :P I took Ceka with me on the Af'ecks bounty, and I think that got him hooked If hunters are going to compete with us...then there going to be in some fairly big competition...and on open bounties, were not afraid to kick a hunter in the teeth if the pay is right.

So those of you who freelance had better be weary...if you see a Mercenary on your bounty, then theres another at your back.

Do you give out free T-shirts that say "MERCS - Yes... you DO need that scum!"

But back on track, Hashum has started another thread with a good starting point to finalize the rules. We could have continued it here but no matter. Please input ONLY new rules or appendages to those rules already stated in that thread. That way I'll have a nice clean thread to use for writing up the final set.

[Hashum]

I thought about continuing it here but felt it was alread a crowded post and thought starting a new one to keep it clean might be better. Although I apologize if this causes any confusion.