Dwilah pummeled my a** - a space PvP discussion

[Dwilah]

I fight once and only once. No rematches ect ect

DAMN IT. Does this mean I can't fight you again either?

[Novall]

targetting specific components shouldn't be used in duels...it takes no skill to let the computer ONLY target one thing...

/agree

Origionally when Dwilah and I had fought, I had thought about targeting just her weapons to keep from hurting the rest of her ship. Right before we fought though I didnt because I realized with 10k damage hitting her all at once, it would do less total damage to any single component if it spread out among em all. I'm not out to destory anyone...but I am out to win

[Novall]

I fight once and only once. No rematches ect ect

DAMN IT. Does this mean I can't fight you again either?

Yeah, we can still fight It will unofficial though until someone other then you beats me officially.

[Dwilah]

I fight once and only once. No rematches ect ect

DAMN IT. Does this mean I can't fight you again either?

Yeah, we can still fight It will unofficial though until someone other then you beats me officially.

Heheheh agreed...I just want to duel again not because I think I could win against you, but because it was a challenge and it was a lot of fun.

In other news...I suspect Ekade will be challenging me soon so 1/1 will turn into something like 2/1. o___o My chassis is going to be eaten by people who wanna get at Novall.

[Novall]

DAMN IT. Does this mean I can't fight you again either?

Yeah, we can still fight It will unofficial though until someone other then you beats me officially.

Heheheh agreed...I just want to duel again not because I think I could win against you, but because it was a challenge and it was a lot of fun.

In other news...I suspect Ekade will be challenging me soon so 1/1 will turn into something like 2/1. o___o My chassis is going to be eaten by people who wanna get at Novall.

Hay!! Your ingame man is a SW...I dont wanna hear it woman! :P j/k

[Dwilah]

Hay!! Your ingame man is a SW...I dont wanna hear it woman! :P j/k

/cough
/shifty eyes

[Ekade]

It was a lot of fun duelling Dwilah. My heart was racing even before the duel.

My observations:
- The a-wing is very very speedy and hard to hit. It makes the x-wing look slow and sluggish in comparison.

- Duel 1 Strategy: I opted for shield adjust forward thinking we would hammer away at eachother head on.

- Duel 1 Recap: I hit Dwilah a few times early on, even saw her shield bubble come up. She took no damage and I thought she had /eshields on. Maybe it was a glitch. I did manage to hit her and she smartly flew away to recover her shields. Then I make a mistake and got greedy, accelerating to full speed to pursue her. I smelled blood. She got behind me and it was game over. I made a couple of futile efforts to shake her, but to no avail. There is no way to shake a skilled a-wing pilot.


- Duel 2 Strategy: Blanced my shields to equal front/back. Decided not to accellerate beyond 50% throttle.

- Duel 2 Recap: She flew in an out of range, zipping around asteroids and such. I landed 1 shot with my 3 guns and it was over.


Conclusions:
Big ships have a better advantage than small ships. The big ship pilot just has to avoid mistakes. They only need to hit once or twice, and prevent the small ship from getting behind them. The small ship on the other hand needs to get themselves behind the big ship. This is a much harder task. A strategy to be tested might be try to sneak in range, fire off a shot, and slip out again. See if you can chip away at the bigger ship.

[Ekade]

targetting specific components shouldn't be used in duels...it takes no skill to let the computer ONLY target one thing...

Yeah, but if you don't you are running the risk of killing the whole ship and the pilot.

[Ekade]

I figure if their good enough to get through you Dwilah, then their worth letting em challange me.


LET THIS BE NOTICE TO ALL WHO WONDER. TO FIGHT ME YOU MUST BEAT DWILAH IN FAIR SPACE COMBAT (When I say beat her I mean your wins against her must be greater then her's against you.)!

I fight once and only once. No rematches ect ect, so you better make damn sure your equipment is ready to go when you /duel me. Only computer problems will get you a rematch

To me, this is plenty fair

Would you be willing to face me in a tier 3 ship using tier 3 components?

[Skarr]

targetting specific components shouldn't be used in duels...it takes no skill to let the computer ONLY target one thing...

Yeah, but if you don't you are running the risk of killing the whole ship and the pilot.

sorry but having the computer target a specific component requires no skill and ends the battle too quickly...

if you're going to duel, you have to run the risk of dying...that's kinda the whole purpose, even if it's for a contest or even between friends...

targetting components is the exact same thing as missiles...lock on to the target (in this case the component) and then fire all day...it's cheap...


do you think WW2 pilots had a computer that would adjust their guns shots to only target the engine?

[Novall]

I figure if their good enough to get through you Dwilah, then their worth letting em challange me.


LET THIS BE NOTICE TO ALL WHO WONDER. TO FIGHT ME YOU MUST BEAT DWILAH IN FAIR SPACE COMBAT (When I say beat her I mean your wins against her must be greater then her's against you.)!

I fight once and only once. No rematches ect ect, so you better make damn sure your equipment is ready to go when you /duel me. Only computer problems will get you a rematch

To me, this is plenty fair

Would you be willing to face me in a tier 3 ship using tier 3 components?

Sure

I use 2 lvl 10 components on my tank, and those are guns. Everything else is lvl 8 (which I know is tier 4) and I think a couple lvl 7's. I could probably pack enough into the privateer tier 2 DuneLizard to out-do a tier 4 ship. Your xwing holds the same loadout of weaponry as my Rix, but has a lower mass...which is where your losing out. I actually hold bigger guns, but only 2 and no launcher which means I'm holding one gun less then my max loadout of 3g/1o. So in reality, I'm only using half of my ships capabilities. Maybe that puts things in a little more presepctive.

I can go out and get 3 lvl 8 cannons and a launcher if you want to go up against me at full power, but I prefer to use my two slow firing lvl 10's to 3 fast firing lvl 8's cause I dont feel the need to over-do it.

I know the capabilities of every single/two player ship as far as mass goes, and from there I make my loadout decisions based on my educated guesses at available parts onboard the opponents ship. Knowing how to fly is only part of a much larger pie, as Dwilah knows also...just caues you get behind me doesnt mean you have me, it just means your safe at the moment.

I could do in a dunelizard what I can do in a rix, it's just gonna take a few more shots. I'm starting to sound like Zo now....(No offence bub, you know I got nothin but love for ya.)

But in all honesty, I know my ships...and I know your ships also. What I would really like to do is go up against a multi player ship Now that would be fun in my book.

[Ekade]

I would argue that the battle ends too quickly regardless. My intent was to follow Dwilah's rule of trying to end the battle without death, not to be "cheap". It does take skill to hit an elusive opponent and a more manuverable ship in an asteroid field.

We have just started duelling. We are learning and discussing options. Don't put me down for trying something and then bringing it up for discussion.


Why would I think WW2 pilots had a computer to target only the engine?

[Skarr]

I would argue that the battle ends too quickly regardless. My intent was to follow Dwilah's rule of trying to end the battle without death, not to be "cheap". It does take skill to hit an elusive opponent and a more manuverable ship in an asteroid field.

We have just started duelling. We are learning and discussing options. Don't put me down for trying something and then bringing it up for discussion.


Why would I think WW2 pilots had a computer to target only the engine?

my intention was not a put down, just saying that to show "true" skills in a duel (we're not talking a free-for-all pvp area, but an honorable duel) that IMO, targetting components does not show true skill...it cheapens it as does missiles...

[Novall]

To argue in favor of both Skarr and Ekade:

It is easier to disable someone if your targeting a specific complnent.

HOWEVER in "A New Hope" we see a star destroyer target the Corvette's main reactor to disable it.

So really its up to the pilot as to what they want to do with their target. Both ways are viable ways of nutralizing your opponent.

Now everyone...its quiet time

[Isleh]

I want in on the next one