Kreetles Return to the Crazy Roba

[Chay-Ara]

No one seemed to have any problems when TTF went to events as overt Imperials and were ganked by overt rebels. Hell, quite a few people would call in non-RPers to fight us and get us out of the event....

Was it right?

Maybe Maybe not and if it happened back then and no one opposed it highly its bound to happen again.

[Isleh]

No one seemed to have any problems when TTF went to events as overt Imperials and were ganked by overt rebels. Hell, quite a few people would call in non-RPers to fight us and get us out of the event....

Was it right?

Maybe Maybe not and if it happened back then and no one opposed it highly its bound to happen again.

I'm sure Nyvveck opposed it. I'm sure all of TTF opposed it. Is their position now changed and are they saying it was okay to do it and that they were wrong to oppose it?

[Kirt]

just want to confirm this for everyone

if you come overt its fair game for any faction to bring players and attack them just no fighting in the cantina

An NO. If a person comes to an event overt, it is NOT fair game. It is not pile out of the cantina and KoS.

Snado walked into the Roba not wearing a Rebel uniform. FoS piled out of the cantina and starting questioning him not because of anything he did, but because they saw a red dot approaching.

I have gone to Events OVERT in armor, and Overt not in Armo. Both times I have found myself dead, NO RP no nothing, and this was with Decay did I ever come here and Bitch? No, Yet when it happens to somone else bitching is allowed and the Overt is fair game is gone. I say if you wanna showup to a event and not be worried about it Dont show up Overt. Iam working a Way with Nyvveck to Place my Guild under Imperial Whatever, and Have a RP reason for us all being Imperial and a Reason for Our Overt ness at event's, thouh some events We will not attend.

[Chay-Ara]

Was it right?

Maybe Maybe not and if it happened back then and no one opposed it highly its bound to happen again.

I'm sure Nyvveck opposed it. I'm sure all of TTF opposed it. Is their position now changed and are they saying it was okay to do it and that they were wrong to oppose it?

Look that is the nature of pvp in this game alright it really has nothing to do with the event at all if your overt anywhere anyone of the opposite faction can also go overt and kill you. doesnt matter where you are nothing is off limits. there is no wrong or right to this. you come overt you take the chance. if you have a problem with that take it up with soe and tell them "Oh well it shouldnt be happening in rp events because its wrong". But what will they do for you?? Nothing... this is the way it will be always.

[Nyvveck]

No one seemed to have any problems when TTF went to events as overt Imperials and were ganked by overt rebels. Hell, quite a few people would call in non-RPers to fight us and get us out of the event....

Was it right?

The only thing that wasn't right was calling in non-RPers to get rid of us. When you declare your faction, you are doing just that. You are not attempting to hide it anymore. For an Imperial, this means going onto active duty. For a rebel, this means not trying to hide your identity.

Something people need to remember is that this game takes place during the Galactic Civil WAR. This is a full scale war: AT-AT, planet assualts, hidden bases, etc. This is not a cold war type situation where two enemies would sit across from eachother in scilence.

How would they know that they are enemies? For one, the Empire keeps track of everything. I assume that most "rebels" don't use their real names when they are buying starport tickets and such because they are covert. When they are overt, they are not hiding anymore, and so Imperial Intelligance would be able to pick them out in the galaxy. For the Imperial, it would be obvious. He'd be wearing a uniform, have a badge, something showing he was on duty.

What I don't understand is why this is a big deal...overt is a risky business, but it is not FORCED on the player. And it takes a grand total of what, a minute? to get overt from on leave. If you don't want to be attacked by other overts at an RP event...why not just go combatent?[/b]

[Isleh]

just want to confirm this for everyone

if you come overt its fair game for any faction to bring players and attack them just no fighting in the cantina

An NO. If a person comes to an event overt, it is NOT fair game. It is not pile out of the cantina and KoS.

Snado walked into the Roba not wearing a Rebel uniform. FoS piled out of the cantina and starting questioning him not because of anything he did, but because they saw a red dot approaching.

I have gone to Events OVERT in armor, and Overt not in Armo. Both times I have found myself dead, NO RP no nothing, and this was with Decay did I ever come here and Bitch? No, Yet when it happens to somone else bitching is allowed and the Overt is fair game is gone. I say if you wanna showup to a event and not be worried about it Dont show up Overt. Iam working a Way with Nyvveck to Place my Guild under Imperial Whatever, and Have a RP reason for us all being Imperial and a Reason for Our Overt ness at event's, thouh some events We will not attend.

Did you like it when it happend? Would you like to see that change? With the NGE, we're basically starting from scratch again. Why not fix the problems instead of living with them?

[Chay-Ara]

What I don't understand is why this is a big deal...overt is a risky business, but it is not FORCED on the player. And it takes a grand total of what, a minute? to get overt from on leave. If you don't want to be attacked by other overts at an RP event...why not just go combatent?[/b]

Totally true overt is never forced on anyone. [/quote]

[Chay-Ara]

An NO. If a person comes to an event overt, it is NOT fair game. It is not pile out of the cantina and KoS.

Snado walked into the Roba not wearing a Rebel uniform. FoS piled out of the cantina and starting questioning him not because of anything he did, but because they saw a red dot approaching.

I have gone to Events OVERT in armor, and Overt not in Armo. Both times I have found myself dead, NO RP no nothing, and this was with Decay did I ever come here and Bitch? No, Yet when it happens to somone else bitching is allowed and the Overt is fair game is gone. I say if you wanna showup to a event and not be worried about it Dont show up Overt. Iam working a Way with Nyvveck to Place my Guild under Imperial Whatever, and Have a RP reason for us all being Imperial and a Reason for Our Overt ness at event's, thouh some events We will not attend.

Did you like it when it happend? Would you like to see that change? With the NGE, we're basically starting from scratch again. Why not fix the problems instead of living with them?

How can we fix them... its gameplay which according to the nge we have no control over im a jedi right now and im not crying for all this new junk they are giving us next patch i want smuggler fixed i want trader fixed but they are giving my proffesion stuff

[Isleh]

What I don't understand is why this is a big deal...overt is a risky business, but it is not FORCED on the player. And it takes a grand total of what, a minute? to get overt from on leave. If you don't want to be attacked by other overts at an RP event...why not just go combatent?[/b]

Totally true overt is never forced on anyone.

So being overt excludes RP? You cannot RP while overt. They are mutually exclusive.

[Nyvveck]

What I don't understand is why this is a big deal...overt is a risky business, but it is not FORCED on the player. And it takes a grand total of what, a minute? to get overt from on leave. If you don't want to be attacked by other overts at an RP event...why not just go combatent?[/b]

Totally true overt is never forced on anyone.

So being overt excludes RP? You cannot RP while overt. They are mutually exclusive.

What exactly is the point of going overt for an RP event if you are not going to act overt, and are not going to fight other overts? I'll tell you this right now: When TTF went to events overt, for a cantina inspection or somesuch, we went overt so that if someone wanted to RP a rebel, they could go overt and ambush us. We expected it, and we did not think it was cheap. That was why we were overt.

Again, what is the point of going overt for an RP event when you don't intend to fight other overts, or to act as an overt?

If you see me overt at an event, I'll be screaming my head off, acting like I own the place. And I will be expecting a group of rebels to come and make me stop. Why? Because I'm overt. Overt adds to RP. They compliment eachother. I have nothing against overts coming to RP events, I welcome it. But again, I can't stress this enough: Why come to an RP event as an overt, when you don't intend to fight, or RP as an overt of your faction?

[Isleh]

What exactly is the point of going overt for an RP event if you are not going to act overt, and are not going to fight other overts?

What exactly is the point of having guild war turned on then?

[Nyvveck]

What exactly is the point of going overt for an RP event if you are not going to act overt, and are not going to fight other overts?

What exactly is the point of having guild war turned on then?

The point of having a guild war is so that if someone does something that you would attack them over, you do not have to deal with the cumbersome /duel system. It makes it easy to set up group fights and the such. In short, it is for non-factional conflicts.

Going overt to an RP event is for factional conflicts. It is to show that there is a war going on.

In the guild war, you should not attack your enemies on sight. They are normal people, you just want to watch your mouth because, as in real life, you say something wrong and they might pull a pistol and shoot you.

When overt, you DO attack people on sight (or after a small amount of RP). They are they enemy, they have said they are the enemy, and they have asked to be attacked by going overt.

[Rebecca]

I think the guild war concept was introduced in order to encourage a more realistic approach to other roleplayers. Being overt and being in a guild war should be considered two different things, at least within this community.

I think Nyvveck makes several strong points. An overt character should be considered an overt character. What does that mean?
They are freely able to be attacked by the opposite faction and thus, unfortunately as it occurs in the real world, can be outnumbered and ultimately killed.

If one doesn't want their character to be getting attacked for supporting their cause, perhaps one should consider supporting that cause more discreetly.

[Isleh]

or after a small amount of RP

So.

Being overt does NOT exclude RP and in fact it could have been FUN for both sides if they maybe tried to arrest them first and maybe engaged in a little bit of RP dialog before attacking.

Certainly a single rebel soldier in uniform walking into an Imperial city would maybe start the line of questioning:

"Why the hell is he here? Is he surrendering? Is he insane? Could he want to sell information? Is it a trap? Is it all of the above? I better find out because if I don't, my commanding officer will have me shot if he had information to sell and I just kill him."

[Jabe Adaks]

I am not sure where the overt/covert argument came in to play. I got killed on the guild war TEF. My only real frustrations are that I wish I coulda been at the Roba longer and that I wish my guild had more members and allies which is really just my own fault that it doesn't.

Otherwise I am not too worried about the rest. I am just explaining myself. Guild war is still on from my end and I intend to continue current RP.

Jabe