son of a bitch!

[Skarr]

I decided to upgrade my norton anti-virus since I would have to pay for the next liveupdate...I had been running NAV2001, and if bought the brand new 2005 I'd get $20 mail in rebate for updating, and the program is on sale for $40, so I figured what the hell...

now I regularly update my virus defs, and run spybot and adaware, and when I did the first scan with nav2005, it picked up 17 fucking items that had never been picked up before (14 spyware and 3 viruses)

I was shocked!!

[Keer]

now I regularly update my virus defs, and run spybot and adaware, and when I did the first scan with nav2005, it picked up 17 fucking items that had never been picked up before (14 spyware and 3 viruses)

I was shocked!!

Is there any way to verify that some of these things were actually on your computer's memory without that software. I've had a feeling for some time that maybe these "anti-spyware" companies might just be lying about the extent that systems are infected.

Like the people that do free "termite/radon/water leak inspections" on your house. "Glad we caught this in time, sir. You may have just avoided a catastrophe!" If it could happen with houses, why not computers?

Not that it doesn't happen, but I'm just saying if that nav2005 was lying about what was on your system, would you know the difference? It could load some junk in your drives and then show it to you as badware.

Maybe it's just the "scam lookout" part of my mind working OT. And I'm definitley not doubting your computer savvy. I sure couldn't challenge you there. Up until some years ago, I thought that the Pentium 100 was a NASCAR race.

[TramelRaggs]

LOL, you think you got problems? Take a listen at this...

One day I'm on my computer minding my own business and I notice I can't seem to start Baulder's Gate. No biggie, I'll just play SWG and it's nothing a reinstall can't fix. Well, I get the notice that some file has been corrupted and I need to run a check disk. I ignore it, then I get about 7 more notices. I figure I'll go ahead and do a system restore since the new files are on a recently installed program and that will be the end of it.

Well, I do the system restore and notice that it actaully wiped out a few files. No big deal, then I notice more and more files are getting corrupted. I run a check disk and that decides that a ton of stuff is corrupted and gets rid of it all without freeing up any HD space (it deleted about 7 GB worth of files). Eh, what you gonna do? SWG stops working so I reinstall it along with Madden 2005. I play a quick game of Madded (Yeah, Bears 7-0) then I get a message that MORE files are corrupt. I run a checkdisk and I proceed to lose even more files. Now I'm thinkking one thing. Bad Hard drive. No sooner do I think "transfer important stuff to the network/pen drive/file server" than the computer decides to restart. Uh oh, some windows files were corrupted and now windows can't start.

So, I have 2 options. I can format the drive and lose everything (which I dont' want to do), do a dirty install of windows and pray I don't overwrite the stuff I'm trying to save (which is the last resort), pay someone to try to do the data recovery (which is tied with the previous option for last resort), buy some data recovery software (see previous option), or try to McGuyver it.

Well, I've hooked the drive directlyt to my file server and even though it acknowledges the drive is there, it won't read it due to incorrect perameters. Now, I try to figure out what that means and think maybe it's because the master drive is FAT32 and the slave is NTFS.

So, on my way home from the gym today, I stop at Walmart to pick up an 80G drive to install windows and see if it will read the bad drive to try to save the files. I pull out the drive, install it and notice that the "gaming" machine won't read the drive. Not only that, but this drive sounds like bowling balls in a wind tunnel fan. After playing with the jumpers and wondering why this Seagate is so loud, I pull it out and read the top.

IBM drive. 20GB.

Now I'm pissed. Not only is Walmart not smart enough to check the returns, but now repairing my system has to get put off until Sunday (going to Great America tomorrow and I really should be in the bed now).

This, my friend, is the time to say "Son of a BITCH!"

[Isleh]

LOL, you think you got problems? Take a listen at this...

One day I'm on my computer minding my own business and I notice I can't seem to start Baulder's Gate. No biggie, I'll just play SWG and it's nothing a reinstall can't fix. Well, I get the notice that some file has been corrupted and I need to run a check disk. I ignore it, then I get about 7 more notices. I figure I'll go ahead and do a system restore since the new files are on a recently installed program and that will be the end of it.

Well, I do the system restore and notice that it actaully wiped out a few files. No big deal, then I notice more and more files are getting corrupted. I run a check disk and that decides that a ton of stuff is corrupted and gets rid of it all without freeing up any HD space (it deleted about 7 GB worth of files). Eh, what you gonna do? SWG stops working so I reinstall it along with Madden 2005. I play a quick game of Madded (Yeah, Bears 7-0) then I get a message that MORE files are corrupt. I run a checkdisk and I proceed to lose even more files. Now I'm thinkking one thing. Bad Hard drive. No sooner do I think "transfer important stuff to the network/pen drive/file server" than the computer decides to restart. Uh oh, some windows files were corrupted and now windows can't start.

So, I have 2 options. I can format the drive and lose everything (which I dont' want to do), do a dirty install of windows and pray I don't overwrite the stuff I'm trying to save (which is the last resort), pay someone to try to do the data recovery (which is tied with the previous option for last resort), buy some data recovery software (see previous option), or try to McGuyver it.

Well, I've hooked the drive directlyt to my file server and even though it acknowledges the drive is there, it won't read it due to incorrect perameters. Now, I try to figure out what that means and think maybe it's because the master drive is FAT32 and the slave is NTFS.

So, on my way home from the gym today, I stop at Walmart to pick up an 80G drive to install windows and see if it will read the bad drive to try to save the files. I pull out the drive, install it and notice that the "gaming" machine won't read the drive. Not only that, but this drive sounds like bowling balls in a wind tunnel fan. After playing with the jumpers and wondering why this Seagate is so loud, I pull it out and read the top.

IBM drive. 20GB.

Now I'm pissed. Not only is Walmart not smart enough to check the returns, but now repairing my system has to get put off until Sunday (going to Great America tomorrow and I really should be in the bed now).

This, my friend, is the time to say "Son of a BITCH!"

Ow....

*Hugs Tramel*

[Skarr]

now I regularly update my virus defs, and run spybot and adaware, and when I did the first scan with nav2005, it picked up 17 fucking items that had never been picked up before (14 spyware and 3 viruses)

I was shocked!!

Is there any way to verify that some of these things were actually on your computer's memory without that software. I've had a feeling for some time that maybe these "anti-spyware" companies might just be lying about the extent that systems are infected.

Like the people that do free "termite/radon/water leak inspections" on your house. "Glad we caught this in time, sir. You may have just avoided a catastrophe!" If it could happen with houses, why not computers?

Not that it doesn't happen, but I'm just saying if that nav2005 was lying about what was on your system, would you know the difference? It could load some junk in your drives and then show it to you as badware.

Maybe it's just the "scam lookout" part of my mind working OT. And I'm definitley not doubting your computer savvy. I sure couldn't challenge you there. Up until some years ago, I thought that the Pentium 100 was a NASCAR race.

heheh well there were actual viruses because they were in some (cough) let's say, tools (cough) that i had dloaded before

[Skarr]

LOL, you think you got problems? Take a listen at this...

One day I'm on my computer minding my own business and I notice I can't seem to start Baulder's Gate. No biggie, I'll just play SWG and it's nothing a reinstall can't fix. Well, I get the notice that some file has been corrupted and I need to run a check disk. I ignore it, then I get about 7 more notices. I figure I'll go ahead and do a system restore since the new files are on a recently installed program and that will be the end of it.

Well, I do the system restore and notice that it actaully wiped out a few files. No big deal, then I notice more and more files are getting corrupted. I run a check disk and that decides that a ton of stuff is corrupted and gets rid of it all without freeing up any HD space (it deleted about 7 GB worth of files). Eh, what you gonna do? SWG stops working so I reinstall it along with Madden 2005. I play a quick game of Madded (Yeah, Bears 7-0) then I get a message that MORE files are corrupt. I run a checkdisk and I proceed to lose even more files. Now I'm thinkking one thing. Bad Hard drive. No sooner do I think "transfer important stuff to the network/pen drive/file server" than the computer decides to restart. Uh oh, some windows files were corrupted and now windows can't start.

So, I have 2 options. I can format the drive and lose everything (which I dont' want to do), do a dirty install of windows and pray I don't overwrite the stuff I'm trying to save (which is the last resort), pay someone to try to do the data recovery (which is tied with the previous option for last resort), buy some data recovery software (see previous option), or try to McGuyver it.

Well, I've hooked the drive directlyt to my file server and even though it acknowledges the drive is there, it won't read it due to incorrect perameters. Now, I try to figure out what that means and think maybe it's because the master drive is FAT32 and the slave is NTFS.

So, on my way home from the gym today, I stop at Walmart to pick up an 80G drive to install windows and see if it will read the bad drive to try to save the files. I pull out the drive, install it and notice that the "gaming" machine won't read the drive. Not only that, but this drive sounds like bowling balls in a wind tunnel fan. After playing with the jumpers and wondering why this Seagate is so loud, I pull it out and read the top.

IBM drive. 20GB.

Now I'm pissed. Not only is Walmart not smart enough to check the returns, but now repairing my system has to get put off until Sunday (going to Great America tomorrow and I really should be in the bed now).

This, my friend, is the time to say "Son of a BITCH!"

ok you win this one

[Keer]

heheh well there were actual viruses because they were in some (cough) let's say, tools (cough) that i had dloaded before

*chuckle* Gotcha. And nav2005 is basically a set of computer creams and a few memory ointments you can use for that type of -kaff-contact-kaff- :lol:

Cool Cool

[X'an Shin]

Not only that, but this drive sounds like bowling balls in a wind tunnel fan. After playing with the jumpers and wondering why this Seagate is so loud, I pull it out and read the top.

IBM drive. 20GB.

Oh Jeez. Way to go, Wal-Mart. Although, there are some people on this forum who are *guilty* of doing this exact scam. I'm not going to name any names.

[Dwilah]

Owww. Pain. =(

I'm having hard drive problems to the max here lately too. Now I'm gunna be paranoid when we go get a new 80GB one on Sunday...

[Denia]

Having problems with my 80gb Maxtor lately too.. Gotta check if there's still guarantee on it. :-(

Yey, seems to be the old 20gig I'm not really using, but set as master. At least I hope it is.

[Jabe Adaks]

This could be the reason you had serious problems with Firefox a ways back.

Jabe