F--- JTL (my first JTL rant)

I guess I shouldn't have assumed that some basic fundamentals of space travel would be present in JTL. Such as:

1) Ability do board another multiplayer ship in space.

2) PvP inside of a ship.

3) Being able to stay aboard your own ship even if one person on board decides to leave/land.

The second one blew me away. You can challenge a person to a duel but EVERY SINGLE COMMAND to start fighting says "You can not <command> while on the interior of a ship."

I did not buy JTL so I could relive some old school XvT but instead play something that might have some RP value to it. As far as RP its practically worthless. I am really pissed because I am mid-stream on an event that counted on some sort of functionality of this nature existing and it doesn't. I guess I thought they might make the expansion to work like the vette missions. Just cause one person jets doesn't mean everybody does and you can fight. So I'm an idiot, I assumed SOE would release a product that was somewhat complete at launch. Go figure.

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Ok heres a answer to one of your questions well comments...

If somone wants to leave a MP ship there is a Escape pod they can use i dont know about the sorosub but i used the one on the rebel mp ship and the other crew memebers were still on
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2) PvP inside of a ship.

You can challenge a person to a duel but EVERY SINGLE COMMAND to start fighting says "You can not <command> while on the interior of a ship."

I did not buy JTL so I could relive some old school XvT but instead play something that might have some RP value to it. As far as RP its practically worthless. I am really pissed because I am mid-stream on an event that counted on some sort of functionality of this nature existing and it doesn't. I guess I thought they might make the expansion to work like the vette missions. Just cause one person jets doesn't mean everybody does and you can fight. So I'm an idiot, I assumed SOE would release a product that was somewhat complete at launch. Go figure.

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This I am truly sorry to hear about. I took if for granted that because the very first "movie" that I saw for JtL (the IGN, Gamespot, etc. pre-release interviews back around August) showed a melee fight scene between 2 characters while other characters looked on, that PvP would be possible onboard ships. That hook got lodged firmly under my jawbone too.

I'd like to say that PvP is a possibility in future JtL patches but it's a windy day and that tree limb is thin and brittle.
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Well I have learned my lesson that bad planning on my part doesn't constitute an emergency on SOE's part. They rushed something out on to the shelves for xmas and the managers are happy while the coders work midnights to keep the subscribers logged in. Sounds like my job!

Seems like they intended for PvP to come sooner or later or the would have just disabled the /duel command as well. Perhaps I am being optimistic. Disabling ships, boarding them, and fighting is a dream delayed.

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ill add my JTL rant, go my new sorosub3000 party boat, but I can't use it because it takes up 1 lot? wtf is up with that? if thats the case I'll never use the thing, and i prolly can't sell it either
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Jabe told me the Yaght takes up 3 lots. This is even worse. I don't know if I can spare the 3 lots. If so I have some serious juggling to do. 1 lot I can spare.
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Skarr might be right, I think it does take up 1 lot - I forgot that the other two went to a house recently... so I thought it was three.

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Skarr wrote:ill add my JTL rant, go my new sorosub3000 party boat, but I can't use it because it takes up 1 lot? wtf is up with that? if thats the case I'll never use the thing, and i prolly can't sell it either
Every multi-person ship will take up 1 lot as far as i know.
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Anyone know what the multiplayer ship's item limits are?

If they take up lots, then I may have to consolidate one of my house's items into my future ship's cargo hold.
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Keer wrote:Anyone know what the multiplayer ship's item limits are?

If they take up lots, then I may have to consolidate one of my house's items into my future ship's cargo hold.
Yes, Keer Tregga. Multiplayer ships can hold up to 75 items (Just found it. JtL Game Guide page 12, para 1.). :mrgreen:
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I have to say I think they would have just disabled dueling on ships if it wasn't to come later. Maybe if there's not a public outcry on the SOE boards we should start one?

Docking with multiplayer ships would be nice, but I'd rather be able to dock with space stations or large NPC ships like Corvettes or Star Destroyers.

People who are dissapointed for RP reasons, stay your course. Try not to be too dissapointed. We are RPers, and imagination and a few words can go a long way. We weave stories with words, and game mechanics hold us only when we let them. Use your imagination and let the story flex gracefully under the pressure...don't let your resolve break.
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Dwilah wrote:I have to say I think they would have just disabled dueling on ships if it wasn't to come later. Maybe if there's not a public outcry on the SOE boards we should start one?
I agree, but first let's gauge where the Devs are on this. I haven't looked at the boards since JtL went live but maybe they have something in-store soon (where does my faith come from? *throws hands up*).

Dwilah wrote:Docking with multiplayer ships would be nice, but I'd rather be able to dock with space stations or large NPC ships like Corvettes or Star Destroyers.
Me too, given one choice or the other.
Dwilah wrote:People who are dissapointed for RP reasons, stay your course. Try not to be too dissapointed. We are RPers, and imagination and a few words can go a long way. We weave stories with words, and game mechanics hold us only when we let them. Use your imagination and let the story flex gracefully under the pressure...don't let your resolve break.
/hi5
*reaches toward the stage rock concert style to touch Dwilah*
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75 items in the SoroSuub, more or less confirmed.

I was able to item limit the thing with just my backpack and inventory (what can I say, I'm a packrat). I didn't check the lot count, but I thought I remembered hearing that it only counts against your lots if there are items on board.

Just FYI.
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Glacial wrote:75 items in the SoroSuub, more or less confirmed.

I was able to item limit the thing with just my backpack and inventory (what can I say, I'm a packrat). I didn't check the lot count, but I thought I remembered hearing that it only counts against your lots if there are items on board.

Just FYI.

nope not true, i have no lots left, and tried to open up my sorosub, and it wouldnt let me...said no lots left
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