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How many of you are still actively grinding Force XP? I still will do the quest to unlock the branch but have given up in grinding Force XP at the momment.

/wave

Me.

I marked yes even though I wouldn't consider myself 'active' in persuing jedi. I haven't given up tho. Since I haven't got much going on right now I'm thinking about heading out to the village this week. So if anyone wants to join in they're welcome.

I chased the carrot once before and was burned badly.

I did the hologrind.. Bounty Hunter, Architect, Chef, and Tailor.. the only one that was even remotely (and I mean VERY remotely) fun was Tailor because it appealed to my inner clothes whore. I also ground out a few classes after, Entertainer, Medic, Artisan.

At the time the Dev's had us believe that if you did your 4 holo's, you needed ONE secret profession to unlock after the holo's went silent. In reality, there was a stealth update that made it so you needed FOUR secret professions.

When the village came to be, they "rewarded" your effort by giving you free unlocks and force XP based on how many of the four secret professions you unlocked. I had 2 of them. However, you need 6 branches to unlock. I'm not interested in grinding through 4 branches, or trashing my current character build to do it.

I do turn in Dance, One-Handed, and Combat xp when it maxes out.. but I do not grind XP whatsoever.

The village to me must be a worse grind than the hologrind was.. Sure you get extras and there are missions. But the missions are re-runs in variation of almost everything else I have done in game.

Grinding 120 million xp with your best profession is NOT fun. At least with the hologrind you got to know the game better and got to try a ton of professions.

As much as I think the grind sucks and I have decided to not do it. However, I must admit I applaud the devs for it. The grind is exactly the way it *should* be. Very few people, except for the most utterly committed should be unlocking Jedi. The fact that people are giving up and the village is mianly empty is a good thing.

With the WoW exodus going on and the grind to Jedi turning people off to it, I feel that an appropriate balance is coming to fruition. I have not seen a Jedi in a good 10 days and thats big considering they used to camp out in Theed.

Jabe

Jabe Adaks wrote:The grind is exactly the way it *should* be. Very few people, except for the most utterly committed should be unlocking Jedi. The fact that people are giving up and the village is mianly empty is a good thing.

With the WoW exodus going on and the grind to Jedi turning people off to it, I feel that an appropriate balance is coming to fruition. I have not seen a Jedi in a good 10 days and thats big considering they used to camp out in Theed.

I like the effect, but not the means. Meaning.. Less Jedi is a good thing. Less Jedi through frustration and endlessly repetetive gameplay is not.

Jedi is a concept that desperately needs a roleplayer to make it feel "star wars".. yet the path to jedi favors the grinder.

It basically encourages people to remove themselves from the social aspects of the game, be it RP or PVP, and focus solely on the acquisition of XP.

Ekade wrote: I like the effect, but not the means. Meaning.. Less Jedi is a good thing. Less Jedi through frustration and endlessly repetetive gameplay is not.

Jedi is a concept that desperately needs a roleplayer to make it feel "star wars".. yet the path to jedi favors the grinder.

It basically encourages people to remove themselves from the social aspects of the game, be it RP or PVP, and focus solely on the acquisition of XP.

/agree

There's a big whole in the means. In terms of Role Play and immersion, at least. I'm sure there are several people here that could really bring some depth to a Jedi character.

Unfortunately, I don't see a true compromise in how to lessen the number of Jedi and make it less-grinder focused. But then again, that's not my job.

I can see the points of Ekade and Keer, but Jedi is primarily a battle profession. Shouldn't you like to fight/grind in game to get it? Just seems like the glove fits for the eprson who wants to wear it. Obviously grinding a ton should appeal to the person who wants to be a Jedi as once they are a padawn they gotta grind a ton again anyway. I dunno, I could be wrong.

Jabe

Done it and finished it and then didnt finish much anyway.

My first holo was rifle I think, I did novice and then some and got utterly bored with it. I'm a melee person all the way. Lying 55m from a target, crawling to get best distance, mob moves, crawling some more. Shoot, shoot.. argh stand up and shoot some more. Nah, Im not patient enough. I want to smack that mob right here and now!

Subsequently I did all professions that appealed to me. Dancer, Pike, Two-handed, Fencer, Teras Kasi, Brawler and a few more.
Then I went back to the rifle which was the only profession I ever did that I didnt enjoy much. In fact I only enjoyed it at Master. Slayed a Nighsister Elder with that I did *giggles*
Wohoo! 1 holo done. Next was tailor, something I had a lot of fun with and the 3rd Holocron I picked up was silent from that point.
All in all I've done 18 professions, all of which were a pleasure except the rifle. When the village came on the map I had 5 of 6 skillbranches for free.
Needless to say I grinded an insane amount of unarmed xp every day. I averaged on 2.5 million unarmed xp per day, thats a lot of baz nitz <grins> until I got dizzy and went to bed

The big day came, I started my padawan trials. After completion I was going to rock the boat! NOT!
I couldnt kill a durni with my lightsaber. Took me a good 6 hours to make the first xp for novice lightsaber. Ever since its been no fun at all. In total I've lost more xp than gained, I can no longer hunt with my friends and I can certainly not die. This is all with my main character used for roleplay and casual silliness. Its the biggest and worst grind, just when you think you reach your goal. Before I start crying and whining... I've done some light RP to justify my characters modest skills with the force but I am not grinding anything. No way, no how. What a dissapointing system. From start to finish.
In my book they need to make some room for normal people to enjoy it. BH deaths are fine, penalties too but how would my closests friends give me visibility and turn me into the Empire? Not happening. They'd take the blaster shot for me gladly. Negative xp? are you crazy??
and what the *beep* is up with this pyjamas? Give me a cloak or something! Nah I'm not gonna grind with this system. I may even surrender the few hard earned jedi boxes I have and go back to being normal. I've had to cut down most of my dancer skills cause I need at least the unarmed master to survive running around with no armor. I'm ashamed I dismantled my main character..

Personally, if I hadn't killed my Force Sensetive character, I would definitiely still be at it. I really enjoy grinding xp, as monotonous as it may be. When I mastered my most recent combat prof, my game time went WAY downhill. Didn't want to ditch the profession I had put so much effort into, but I had nothing left to grind.

The eternal grinder should be a new profession. I would be there.

Wait a sec Yala, you can get negative xp as Jedi? How far below zero can you go? And at what times do you get penalized?

Jabe

The last mission I saw was the one where you get the focus crystil but it was too hard for me. Dose anyone have like a chart of all the missions of the village and what loot they give?

Jabe Adaks wrote:I can see the points of Ekade and Keer, but Jedi is primarily a battle profession. Shouldn't you like to fight/grind in game to get it?

From a strict PvP or PvE standpoint, yes. But it would be good for immersion to have someone be Jedi and express it in RP. Good RP experience for the person who does it too.

-10 MILLION

From the FAQ...
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If you clone you will lose an amount of Jedi XP based on your skill level:

-4,500 XP if you are only a Jedi Initiate or below (haven't completed Padawan Trials yet).
-5,000 XP if you have no novice boxes in any of the Jedi Disciplines (new Padawan).
-15,000 XP if you have any novice boxes in any Jedi Discipline.
-30,000 XP if you have any level 1 boxes in any Jedi Discipline.
-50,000 XP if you have any level 2 boxes in any Jedi Discipline.
-100,000 XP if you have any level 3 boxes in any Jedi Discipline.
-200,000 XP if you have any level 4 boxes (a full branch) in any Jedi Discipline.

If you use Regain Consciousness you will lose -50,000 Jedi XP (but not the -200K).

If you get rez'd by a doc you do not lose any Jedi XP (unless DB'd by a BH of course).

The cap for negative XP is -10 million and it will not 'decay', so be careful!

Jabe Adaks wrote:I can see the points of Ekade and Keer, but Jedi is primarily a battle profession. Shouldn't you like to fight/grind in game to get it? Just seems like the glove fits for the eprson who wants to wear it. Obviously grinding a ton should appeal to the person who wants to be a Jedi as once they are a padawn they gotta grind a ton again anyway. I dunno, I could be wrong.

Jabe

Whoa..

Jedi is not a battle profession.

Jedi is not a profession at all. It is an order. It is a philosophy. It is a way of life.

Jedi is about being aware.. sensing, doing the right thing. How much lightsaber training did Yoda put Luke through? Not a lick. He taught Luke how to feel and reach out with the force.

To me, jedi is more an attunement to ones surroundings. The better (more powerful) you were, the less fighting you did.