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Camping
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 1:57 pm
by Illbleed
Just the hell of it, I decided to go to Lord Nyax's last night to see if I could loot something off of him. I found it to be camped by 5 people each trying to outdamage each other. In this thread, the poster pretty much says if you can't beat them, join em. Personally, I think if they're going to do POI's/Dungeons they should make them instanced. Yes, this does take up more server resources, but don't you think SOE has enough money to do it?Most of us have 2 or more accounts anyway. What do you think?
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/boar ... ge.id=4044
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 2:05 pm
by Krusshyk
That thread doesn't exist anymore, Ill. I think I know the one you are talking about. Is it the one started by that genetic throw back, Digi-abit?
That guy is stealing my air, along with the bulk of people who post at the SOE forums.
Would it be great for instanced dungeons? Absoultely. Kill stealing (which some people claim doesn't exist, mostly brain dead dicks like digi) would be a non-issue in the quest for high end dungeon loot. Will it ever happen? Not a chance. I am pretty sure that it would take a MASSIVE amount of resources from SOE to instance dungeons like they do on the vette, and I don't see it happening. Even if SOE did have the resources to do it, I can't imagine them not jacking up our monthly fees, two accounts or not.
Edited: Correction, that thread is up. It just didn't work when I clicked it. And it was a different thread I was talking about. My bad.
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 2:35 pm
by Hashum
I'm less concerned with the loot issue but I'd still like these to be instanced for better lag. And so that someone else doesn't aggro some nasties and they end up swarmming me.
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 4:08 pm
by Lok'i Vidaar
Actually his link was originally bad I fixored it... :P
Check again Young Padawan...
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 4:21 pm
by Seret Sajet
You'd think an instanced dungeon might be slightly easier to create than a regular one. For one it can be totally seperate and doesn't have to be carved somewhere in the lanscape. The envirnment is controlled and contained. Then again whatever goes into creating them to be instanced and the envirnment (like Dooo mentioned the Corvetter) can't be easy.
I'm all for more of them, 100%. I love the corvette for the sheer fun we've had up there, even if we died more times than Freddy Krueger. They are unique and fun and you get to enjoy them with just your friends. Campers just kill the fun of a hunt for you.
I'm about to say the taboo word. Get ready for it...
WoW has quite a few instanced dungeons, all unique and very fun. So far SOE seems to have taken a lot of notes from WoW (the combat revamp sounds very familar) so I hope they continue to do the same.
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 5:34 pm
by Jabe Adaks
I voted no. If spawn rates are high enough it shouldn't matter. And some of my best hunting groups are when compelet strangers join me in a random ad-hoc group. Instancing is not the answer.
Besides I've ranted about it before, instancing takes a lot of extra hardware to run which increases the cost of the game, and utltimately the customers foot the bill.
Jabe
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 5:56 pm
by MrDooo
I didn't vote because i think there should be MORE instanced dungeons, but not ALL dungeons should be instanced. So my vote is somewhere in between. They should continue to add both kinds to the game, but more instanced ones initially since there's currently only one.
I don't think the customers will have to pay more in monthly fees if they have to add more. In fact, I'll bet we see more instanced ones within the year. They know customers would refuse rate increases when there's plenty of competition out there. The only way they could get more cash would be thru release of another expansion.
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 6:00 pm
by Jaminos
I gave up on places like the Geo cave or Nyax's place. I have a hard time even gringing at the squill cave without three master tk's killing squills when they are already master. it kinda makes me mad.
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 6:04 pm
by Ekade
Instanced dungeons all the way. It is the only way to prevent camping.
I despise camping. You fight your way all the way through a "dungeon" only to find some guys sitting on top of the corpse of the "boss" waiting for him to respawn to they can kill him an possible claim some uber loot.
In the scenario I just described, you allow a tiny percentage of the population to basically ruin the content that you spend X months creating.. for everybody.
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 8:09 pm
by Jerrel
I concer with E on this. The devs spend x days creating a dungeon that less than 1% of the server population can ruin for every one in less than one hour. Private Dungeons would ensure that every one who is tries it will beable to enjoy it all the way up to the end.
PostedThu Feb 03, 2005 8:19 pm
by Isleh
Instanced dungeons are also the best way to control the difficulty.
I still remember getting all buffed to finally do the warren and getting there only to see that the place was over run by PCs. The INSTANT anything spawned, 5+ PCs were on it in a compition to see who got the loot.
There was a Player spamming that he was selling the disks to complete the first mission right at the enterance and Wey and I strolled through it like tourists in the Smithsonian. All that was missing was the Hot Dog vendors.
We had the vendors outside selling to the tourists, all that was needed was an old man to be rude to me because I was standing in his way of viewing a display.
"Miss, could you please move along? Other people would like to look at the cyborg hurton display"
PostedSun Feb 06, 2005 5:35 pm
by KirtViza
You want to make it real easy...First group or solo person to attack said target, gets loot rights and is the only one allowed to attack, if somone else you know comes later and wants to join, invite to goup...this is stolen from FFxI, you begin to loss have a "HELP" button that allows everyone to attack the target but no loot drops
PostedSun Feb 06, 2005 8:34 pm
by Rye
i hate campers in real life any fps and any game what so ever...
PostedSun Feb 06, 2005 9:35 pm
by MrDooo
Rye wrote:i hate campers in real life any fps and any game what so ever...
They all need to die.

PostedMon Feb 07, 2005 1:38 am
by Rye
doo lemme fix that image for you
Those Bastards caused a forest fire damn campers!!!! :x