Upcoming Scum and Villany Night

We'll go with what worked last time:

Sunday, July 25th. 8pm CST
Lucky Despot Cantina, Mos Eisley


New things:
- Several of you have mentioned ideas for the gambling. Please post them here for discussion or introduce your game at the event.
- Any other ideas, improvements, etc?

The last event was quite a success and it sounds like there are many people fired up about attending this time. :D
Ekade
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Really trying to get some solid gaming systems down. I can't remember, but someone posted a few simple odds tables for the dice a few days ago. I want to say Gaaralow, but I'm not sure.

I'll have to check the "Casino" thread.
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Gaaralow's research turned up this site:

http://members.aol.com/dicetalk/d6alph.htm

It links to dice games, but has other games as well.

I'll be perusing it to find some decent games for us to play.
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More from the Gaaralow files, a game for 12-sided dice mini-Roulette.

Red/Blue - 2:1
Even/Odd - 2:1
Colored Even/Odd - 4:1
Number - 12:1
Colored Number - 24:1

Right now, this is what I see Keer hawking for the next S&V Night. I'll have alot more free time before the third one (the 1st of August) to tool with a few more unless someone else sees something that they'd like to play.
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Smug Druggler wrote:More from the Gaaralow files, a game for 12-sided dice mini-Roulette.

Red/Blue - 2:1
Even/Odd - 2:1
Colored Even/Odd - 4:1
Number - 12:1
Colored Number - 24:1

Right now, this is what I see Keer hawking for the next S&V Night. I'll have alot more free time before the third one (the 1st of August) to tool with a few more unless someone else sees something that they'd like to play.
Ya forgot that ya need a chance cube as well for the colors.
Gaaralow
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Great! I'll make an invite to my rowdy friends in BHG about it too, explaining it's for role playing! :-)
Sepiv
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Gaaralow wrote:
Smug Druggler wrote:More from the Gaaralow files, a game for 12-sided dice mini-Roulette.

Red/Blue - 2:1
Even/Odd - 2:1
Colored Even/Odd - 4:1
Number - 12:1
Colored Number - 24:1

Right now, this is what I see Keer hawking for the next S&V Night. I'll have alot more free time before the third one (the 1st of August) to tool with a few more unless someone else sees something that they'd like to play.
Ya forgot that ya need a chance cube as well for the colors.
Didn't forget. Had the chance cube in mind, just didn't type it in. "Colored Number" makes it a given.
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sounds like a cool idea
I'll be there
N'dru
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Um, one thing I didn't see was people running any gambling games...did I miss something? Sure the regular jubilee terminals were there but it sounded like there would be other sponsored games going on.

Did Jinx miss out on something going on? :-D
Sepiv
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I think that there was soo much going on with us (the people from Nocturnus) the whole night that the usual gamblers never got the games going.

Rest assured though, there will be gambling in your future...if I have anything to say about it.

Right Ekade?
Zannon
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Sepiv wrote:Um, one thing I didn't see was people running any gambling games...did I miss something? Sure the regular jubilee terminals were there but it sounded like there would be other sponsored games going on.

Did Jinx miss out on something going on? :-D
Your name is "Jinx" and you wonder why you missed out on the gambling? :D

You wanted gambling did you! Well why didn't you say so! Keer would have gladly traded you his TWO sets of dice (12 cubes total) for say, some oxygen maybe! :D

The reason that you "missed out" on the gambling is because you had the most enthusiastic gambler in the Casino writhing under your pet bag-of-garden-mulch for survival! LOL!

Ehh, in all seriousness, the gamble that Keer took in getting away was the funnest "dice roll" he's ever made.
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Zannon wrote:
Rest assured though, there will be gambling in your future...if I have anything to say about it.

Right Ekade?
You will have to ask Lady Valarian. I am just a dancer. :D

Some of the guys mentioned they had some games in mind. I still think it would be great if we could devise and entertaining game. This would be a great way to "suck in" people as well.

A game to be a backdrop for some good RP. I envision some colorful characters sitting around a table conversing while the game goes on. If someone "get's hot", some dancers may hover around, flirting for a few credits, etc. Perhaps a "brute" type gets mad at losing and accuses the winner of cheating, etc... "Scoundrel" type tries to talk his way out of it.. you get the idea.

Then of course there is the scandelous game going on in the back room where players wager clothing and other favors. oops... did I say that out loud? Ignore that. :D

I am not really familiar with card games or dice games... Does someone want to make something up? Zannon, I know you have plans to open a casino... did you have any ideas along these lines?
Ekade
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Here's a game harvested from the Smuggler Profession Forum. "Snake Eyes"! I like it. Credit goes to "Surseance" of the Infinity Galaxy, playing under Lacq Laithlind.

There are many dice games that can be played with other players, but Snake Eyes is by far the most exciting one I have tried. The reason for this is that the money in the winner pot can increase incredibly much in a short time - and you'll never really know who wins - or when - before someone actually reaches 100. The game is very easy to learn. As a rule, the higher the initial bet is, the faster the pot grows. The more players in the game, the faster the pot grows as well.

Real Life Snake Eyes follows basically the same rules as the ones we use within the Space Pirates, but our Pirate Snake Eyes rules are modified to make it easier to calculate the winner pot.

***SNAKE EYES DICE GAME RULES***

Number of players: Two or more

Number of dice: Two six-sided dice (choose roll two dice on a six-sided dice)

Ante: None - payment as the game proceeds, as below

Object of the game: To be the first to accumulate 100 points, subject to certain handicaps


-TERMINOLOGY-

Ace: Rolling a 1 is called rolling an ace.
Snake Eyes: Rolling TWO 1's is called rolling Snake Eyes


-METHOD OF PLAY-

A scorekeeper is needed, who will keep tabs for each player.

The players agree on an initial bet; for instance 1000 credits. Each player puts 1000 credits in the pot.

Play proceeds in turn around the table, with the clock; i.e. from left to right. (To determine who goes first, every player rolls ONE die. The player with the highest score starts.)

The two dice are rolled as many times as the player chooses, and he announces aloud the amount of each roll and the cumulative total.


BUT...

...if he rolls one ace, that ENDS his turn and he gets NO SCORE.

...if he rolls SNAKE EYES he not only gets no score, but ALL his accumulated previous score is WIPED OUT and he starts at ZERO again.

Consequently, the player has to choose between trying to run a big score and the increasing probability that an ace will show and ruin it.

When a player announces that he is stopping his turn, having rolled no aces, the scorekeeper credits him with his score for the turn, and announces aloud his accumulated total. This helps the other players to decide whether to play cautiously or rashly, depending on the relative scores of the moment.

Every time a player rolls an ace or Snake Eyes, ALL players add 1/10th of the initial pot to the pot before the next starts his turn. This may sound small, but it builds up fast.
The first player to reach a total score of 100 takes the pot.


***A PRACTICAL EXAMPLE***

The players A, B, and C has decided to play Snake Eyes. First, eveyone has made sure they each have a six-sided die in their inventory, and then they form a group. Now the dice rolls will show up in everybody's Combat screen.

The three players agree to place an initial bet of 1000 credits to the pot. The pot is now 3000. In practice this means that every time the game stops, every player must pay 300 each to the pot; increasing the pot with 900 for each stop.

For practical reasons, all you have to do is let the game flow but count how many times the game stopped and calculate the winner pot afterwards.

The three players roll one die each to decide who starts. In this case, we'll say A won, followed by B and then C.

Player A starts and rolls a 4 and a 5. That's 9. He decides to roll again and rolls a 6 and a 6. That's 12 and his total is now 21. He decides to roll again and gets a 1 and a 3. This time he gets no score, the game stops and it is now B's turn.

B rolls a 2 and a 4. That's 6. He rolls again and gets a 5 and a 3. That's 8 and his total score is now 12. He rolls again and gets a 5 and a 6. That's 11 and his total score is now 23. He rolls again and gets a 5 and a 5. That's 10 and his total score is now 33. B decides to stop rolling now. The game STOPS and now it is C's turn.

C rolls a 4 and a 3. That's 7. He rolls again and gets a 6 and a 2. That's 8, making a total score of 15. He decides to roll again and get a 1 and a 2. Since C now rolled an ace, he gets no score and the game stops, leaving C with 15 points.

A's total from last time was 21. Now he rolls again and gets a 5 and a 6, making a total of 32. He rolls again and roll a 5 and a 5 making a total of 42. He rolls again and gets a 5 and a 4 making a total of 51. He rolls again and rolls a 1 and a 1! The player has rolled Snake Eyes and his score is now 0, the game stops and it is now player B's turn!

The game now goes on in this fashion until player B is the first to reach 100. The game stopped 27 times before a winner could be declared. We remember that the initial bet was 1000 credits from every player, making an initial pot of 3000. Every time the game stopped, each player was to pay 300 to the pot. THusly, every time the game stopped, the pot increased with 900 credits.
900 credits x 27 stops = 24.300 credits.
We then add the initial pot of 3000 credits to this sum, making a winner pot of 27.300 credits.

Each player must therefore pay 1000 plus 300 x 27 = 9100 credits to the winner.

Just remember, the more players and the higher the initial bet is; the higher the pot will be. And it *really*grows fast, just so you are warned!


***SAFETY AND TRUST***

These rules function well within our own guild since we have laws concerning the settling of gambling debts. But if you are going to play this game outside of a guild with people you don't know or don't trust, the only way would be to play it with a neutral scorekeeper who not only keeps the tabs but also acts as the bank.

The way a neutral player can act as the bank is like this:
Every time the game stops, every participating player must /bank tip the scorekeeper 1/10th of the initial starting pot. THe game does not proceed until everyone has paid. If someone cannot pay, they are out of the game, and the money they've already paid to the pot REMAINS in the pot.
Once the game is over, the scorekeeper will /bank tip the winner the appropriate amount.

For practical purposes the scorekeeper should be paid for his services. This the scorekeeper can do himself when paying the winner by charging 10% of the winner sum as his payment. If the winner pot was 100k, the scorekeeper's payment would therefore be 10k, and the winner would receive 90k instead of 100k.

Why 10%? 10% is actually very little considering that it costs 5% of the sum to actually /bank tip the winner. In reality it is therefore only 5% the scorekeeper gets.

Lt. Col. Lacq Laithlind
Baron and Pirate Presbyter
Professional Gambler, Smuggler and Gunslinger

Feedback anyone?

Oh, and we're doing Scum & Villainy on Saturday this week? Yes or No?
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TY Keer.. that sounds perfect!!! I want to play NOW! :D

I can act as the bank if you like. My master has all my credits so I won't have to do any complicated math to know how big the pot is. :D

Yes, S&V night has been moved to Saturday for next week as per Zannon's request. Still 8pm, Zannon?
Ekade
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Still 8pm, Zannon?
Yup! As long as a certain someone that shall remain nameless doesn't leave me hanging...again (don't worry, it's no one here).

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