ok so what did we learn??

[Skorixor]

palp was the apprentice of the most badass sith ever, and he killed him after learning from him (sounds familiar)

therefore, palp also knew how to keep ppl alive, and the even more curious...create life straight from midichlorians (ugh) therefore explaining how anakin came from a mommy with no daddy

chewbacca was basically a kind of wookiee general head honcho guy

qui-gon figured out how to "come back from the dead" and taught yoda who teaches obi-wan.............so does this mean that GL will re-edit ROTJ yet again to show qui-gon in group ghost shot at the end?

the scene with r2 hiding the loud ass comlink was fucking hilarious!

that we now know why it's not really a kiddie movie (although could anakin, who is about to have a kid, really go in and cut down a bunch of kids?)

that actors actually learned how to ACT

the all the practice lightsaber training the actors did before th emovie paid off big time...some of those fights were FAST and precise...anyone get a hand/head/leg cut off tally? let's see...dooku's 2 hands and head, yoda cut 2 clone heads, windu's arm, anakin's legs....I know I'm missing more

and what about this...remember a while back a british rag magazine published pics of anakin with basically a head and a molten skeleton, that was supposed to be a stolen photo of anakin afer falling into the lava, that is obviously NOW a fake...did the mag make it up or did GL leak a fake?

that's all I can think of atm, I just got back and am still processing the movie in my mind

[Akura Tatsumura]

There were a few small things that i didn't care for, but i won't get into them. The only thing I will do is /worship. I thought the the movie was awesome!!! I make no bad judgements about anything in the movie, I'm not a film critic. All I can say is wow!!

[Skorixor]

things I missed:

Lucas in blue face as an alien senator, don't know how I missed a big blue Lucas

the millenium falcon was near the end of the movie, dammit




of course, Lucas's son was easy to spot...he was the jedi kid that got whacked when Organa showed up

[Lok'i Vidaar]

things I missed:

Lucas in blue face as an alien senator, don't know how I missed a big blue Lucas

the millenium falcon was near the end of the movie, dammit




of course, Lucas's son was easy to spot...he was the jedi kid that got whacked when Organa showed up

Crap and crap... I knew the third but Damn I can't believe I missed the other two... and I SAW IT TWICE!!! I wish I read this after the first time I could have looked for these things :P

[Keer]

palp was the apprentice of the most badass sith ever, and he killed him after learning from him (sounds familiar)

therefore, palp also knew how to keep ppl alive, and the even more curious...create life straight from midichlorians (ugh) therefore explaining how anakin came from a mommy with no daddy

Not necessarily so on Palpatine's knowledge. From what Palpatine said in the movie (paraphrased):

"Only one person has learned to do this, but together (he and Anakin) I'm sure we can figure it out."

Now maybe Palpatine did learn learn the secret and was just baiting Anakin or he didn't learn it from Darth Plagus (his master) and was trying to learn as he said. Or....if you *really* want to see Palp as a conniving bastard, the whole story was a lie from start to finish, just to get Anakin gassed up. It really could go either of those ways.

On the "Immaculate Conception" rip, also it could have been just the midi-chlorian's will alone that made Anakin as Qui-Gon Jin theorized in Ep 1. Palpatine's mention of Darth Plagus "influencing midichlorians to create life" could have been a reference only to the ability to cheat death.

Before the movie was released, I do remember seeing info saying that in an earlier version of the script, Lucas had Palpatine swaying Anakin by telling him directly that he (Palpatine) was responsible for his birth. Basically, "I am your father redux (or would that be 'pre-dux'?). For whatever reason, Lucas scrapped it. (Source on that spoiler: USA Today May 13th, Fri/Sat/Sunday paper version, Entertainment Section)

that we now know why it's not really a kiddie movie (although could anakin, who is about to have a kid, really go in and cut down a bunch of kids?)

That one was a stretch in my opinion as well. Too fast of a turn to *that* far in the Darkside in general.

that actors actually learned how to ACT

This one, I've laid at the feet of the director. I'm not out to beat up on Lucas for no reason at all, but one of the main duties of a director is to get believable performances out of your actors. Take a look at the cast. With the exception of Hayden Christiansen, they all have significant experience outside of Star Wars and have displayed their talent under other directors. They're no slouches. If anyone stepped up their game, it was Lucas in probably saying, "No, let's try that line again."

all the practice lightsaber training the actors did before th emovie paid off big time...some of those fights were FAST and precise...

Big time agreement there. In the inevitable DVD deleted scenes release I hope to see Anakin's fight against a Jedi who is the film's sword combat instructor (who's name escapes me now). The instructor can be seen for a few seconds as a Jedi fighting Anakin in the Hologram recording playback that Obi-Wan and Yoda view at the Jedi Temple.

[Jotun]

When Anakin runs up the stairs to the weird alien performance is when you see Lucas...it shows Lucas as Anakin goes in the doorway...he is on the left talking to another person of his race. I saw a YT1300 parked, but I am guessing that the Falcon is in the shot of Alderaan?

[X'an Shin]

On the "Immaculate Conception" rip, also it could have been just the midi-chlorian's will alone that made Anakin as Qui-Gon Jin theorized in Ep 1. Palpatine's mention of Darth Plagus "influencing midichlorians to create life" could have been a reference only to the ability to cheat death.

/Agree

If Palpatine really created Anakin (as Skarr suggests was in that newspaper article), that would have been such a tremendous mistake on the part of continuity.

The Prophesy speaks of a virgin birth bringing he who will bring about balance to the Force.

So why would Palpatine CREATE such a being? Just makes no sense. As he suggests, he has knowledge of both Jedi and Sith lore, so he knew about the prophesy. It's like saying a Christian doesn't know about Jesus.

[Krusshyk]

On the "Immaculate Conception" rip, also it could have been just the midi-chlorian's will alone that made Anakin as Qui-Gon Jin theorized in Ep 1. Palpatine's mention of Darth Plagus "influencing midichlorians to create life" could have been a reference only to the ability to cheat death.

/Agree

If Palpatine really created Anakin (as Skarr suggests was in that newspaper article), that would have been such a tremendous mistake on the part of continuity.

The Prophesy speaks of a virgin birth bringing he who will bring about balance to the Force.

So why would Palpatine CREATE such a being? Just makes no sense. As he suggests, he has knowledge of both Jedi and Sith lore, so he knew about the prophesy. It's like saying a Christian doesn't know about Jesus.

I agree...with one exception...

Yoda straight up says that the prophecy may have been misinterpreted. When he, obi wan, and mace are on the transport ship right after Obi wan tells anakin to spy on the chancellor.

[Krusshyk]

I think this movie lends credence to the "Vader is a tool" school of thought. An emotional and powerful tool, but a tool nonetheless.

[Skorixor]

was the prophecy wrong?

didn't anakin kill off palpatine and bring peace back to the galaxy?
not many people think that way

[Krusshyk]

I thought the prophecy spoke of bringing balance to the force, not so much peace to the galaxy.

Having a pair of Evil master sith and no one left on the opposite side doesn't sound a lot like balance. Balance would be homeostasis of the two sides in constant struggle with neither side prevailing or total destruction of both. I would lean more towards the grim absolutist view of the "balance" the prophecy spoke of: no more jedi OR sith. Neither condition of which was met by Vader's coming.

[Seret Sajet]

I learned Lucas can't write romantic dialogue to save his life

I didn't learn but rather reinforced the notion I carry that R2D2 is the true hero of EVERY STAR WARS MOVIE.

I learned Anakin is the most gulable sap in the Jedi order. You could of brought him over to the Dark Side with the promise of a cheeseburger and fries. Throw in the drink and he's yours.

I learned despite all my silly little comments I loved this film far greater than I or II. It gets two thumbs way up in my book.

As for this propechy wackiness, it says "Brings balance to the force." What that means to me is Good with the presence of evil or rather the light side with a bit of the dark too. I think Luke fits the bill on that one.

[X'an Shin]

On the "Immaculate Conception" rip, also it could have been just the midi-chlorian's will alone that made Anakin as Qui-Gon Jin theorized in Ep 1. Palpatine's mention of Darth Plagus "influencing midichlorians to create life" could have been a reference only to the ability to cheat death.

/Agree

If Palpatine really created Anakin (as Skarr suggests was in that newspaper article), that would have been such a tremendous mistake on the part of continuity.

The Prophesy speaks of a virgin birth bringing he who will bring about balance to the Force.

So why would Palpatine CREATE such a being? Just makes no sense. As he suggests, he has knowledge of both Jedi and Sith lore, so he knew about the prophesy. It's like saying a Christian doesn't know about Jesus.

I agree...with one exception...

Yoda straight up says that the prophecy may have been misinterpreted. When he, obi wan, and mace are on the transport ship right after Obi wan tells anakin to spy on the chancellor.

Unfortunately we have 4,5, and 6 to show us that it wasn't misinterpreted. It's not Luke, but Anakin who has the strength to throw the Emporer into the shaft and bring balance back to the Force.

[X'an Shin]

I thought the prophecy spoke of bringing balance to the force, not so much peace to the galaxy.

Having a pair of Evil master sith and no one left on the opposite side doesn't sound a lot like balance. Balance would be homeostasis of the two sides in constant struggle with neither side prevailing or total destruction of both. I would lean more towards the grim absolutist view of the "balance" the prophecy spoke of: no more jedi OR sith. Neither condition of which was met by Vader's coming.

But I don't think the Force likes the "Dark Side." Remember, Palpatine says that some consider the Dark Side to be "unnatural." That's not balanced, it's an abomination. We could debate the perspective angle on this forever, but I think the prophecy wasn't one which put a constant war-like struggle in the lime-light.

Without Jedi OR Sith, there is no one to mentor the Force anymore, so that's not balance, either.

[KirtViza]

/Agree

If Palpatine really created Anakin (as Skarr suggests was in that newspaper article), that would have been such a tremendous mistake on the part of continuity.

The Prophesy speaks of a virgin birth bringing he who will bring about balance to the Force.

So why would Palpatine CREATE such a being? Just makes no sense. As he suggests, he has knowledge of both Jedi and Sith lore, so he knew about the prophesy. It's like saying a Christian doesn't know about Jesus.

I agree...with one exception...

Yoda straight up says that the prophecy may have been misinterpreted. When he, obi wan, and mace are on the transport ship right after Obi wan tells anakin to spy on the chancellor.

Unfortunately we have 4,5, and 6 to show us that it wasn't misinterpreted. It's not Luke, but Anakin who has the strength to throw the Emporer into the shaft and bring balance back to the Force.

I agree, and if you think about it..He will bring balance to the force? doesnt say How, maybe Bringing a child into the galaxy that will be on the good side or LIGHT rather is "Bringing" balance.