Bounty Hunter System

[JavierLQ]

I have a proposition. Since SOE has not given us the ability to have player Bounties...i saw we make our own system. Well actually..i would sort of like to copy a system from another server.

http://www.swghuntersguild.com/

That is the website with all the rules etc. I have never been too good at orginizing things like this, so was hoping someone else who also liked this could help me out. I have not read all the rules, but i know that the people using it are having lots of fun with this.

Ther are basically 3 roles you can play. Informant, Mark, or Hunter.

Read the website for the rest, and please post any comments or opinions.

This could have some great RPing possabilities.

Javier AKA Joc

[Ekade]

I was getting an ASP.Net error when trying to access their Rules page. Can anyone else get in?

If so, can you post the highlights of the rules?

[JavierLQ]

No, looks like something may be wrong at the site..im gonna look for the post where one of the makers talked about it...



*EDIT* This is the post i could find :

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/boar ... tem#M17262


I believe however, this was in the early stages, i dont know how much has changed, but gives a good idea.

Ill keep trying the site, and if they fix it i will let you guys know

[Ekade]

Many thanks! Judging by the home page on their site, it seems very active. That tells me it must be a pretty fun system.

[JavierLQ]

bump...edited my last post

[Seret Sajet]

I think we have enough mercs and BHs to establish a Player Bounty system of our own. Why don't we ignore this site and develop our own. We're smart people, we can do it.

First set up admins. These are people from our Gorath Game Masters group who will set up bounties. They pick the reason, the scenario, and the price. They select from the list of Marks and post it on a BH forum.

Just allow everyone to take roles in this network of players we've built here. Say Ekade volunteers to be an "Informant." It fits, she spends a lot of times in cantinas, both respectible and shady. She'd see and talk to a lot of people and gain a lot of info. She is now known as a BH Informant on SWG Tales.

Now lets say a few of our shady characters volunteer to be Marks. Novall has probably ticked off a few people. The BH Admin puts a 100K bounty on Novall's head. The BH must track down Novall using realistic means. He could pay a ranger like me with player tracking skills to help him find Novall or go to Cantina's an specials nights (Club Midnight, S&V Night, Crazy Roba) and talk to informants. Once he finds Novall he makes himself known as a BH and they must duel.

Now he gets only one chance. Live or die. How he does, both rated by the Mark and Informant as well as the Admin, is added to Rap Sheet here on this site. BHs can build actual reps based on performance in these BH events.

How's that for starters? Anyone want to build on this or change it around a bit?

[JavierLQ]

Im all for making our own system. I mean, i am just trying to find new and fun games seeing as to how many of the "features" of SOE are broken or something else. If you guys wanna come up with our own system..then im in full support.

Joc

[X'an Shin]

I like this, but I think that you might want to consider dueling rules. The BH is pretty much always going to win, unless the player starts unreasonably buffing himself like crazy at all hours of the day, as the BH will know the confrontation is about to take place, and come to the party buffed.

[Seret Sajet]

True, but how much do we want to mess with that? Part of a BH's skill is catching their prey off guard. Then again if you had a bounty on your head you might go into hiding or walk around buffs because you expect to have to take on BHs.

We want realism but at the same time we want this to be fun. We don't want no one volunteering to be marks ever. We want everyone to enjoy this, even if you're the one being hunted.

[JavierLQ]

I think that for this, we would need to set up another message board. Now people would post their bounty, and list who is the character, how much pay to the Bounty Hunter, and a RP reason of WHY the bounty is being placed.Simply putting "i dont like him" would not be good enough, as it could evolve into griefing etc.. This way, any bounty hunters have a chance to "pick up" bounty opportunities, and the people being hunted have the opportunity of knowing they are being hunted. Now as far as comfirmation... i believe that the way to do this would be by having the Bounty Hunter take a screenshot of the dead player, and then have to post a reply to the thread within an hour. After this has been done, the person who posted the bounty and the BH would have to arrange a meeting to take care of pay etc.

If, after the player who had the bounty placed on him, has been killed by a BH, and gets approched by another...they could deny the duel and direct the BH to the thread to show that he has been killed for that bounty already.

Also, I think that when a BH approaches his bounty, he must challenge a duel, and say who posted the bounty on his head, and why.

just some thoughts.

Joc

[Seret Sajet]

I think that for this, we would need to set up another message board. Now people would post their bounty, and list who is the character, how much pay to the Bounty Hunter, and a RP reason of WHY the bounty is being placed.Simply putting "i dont like him" would not be good enough, as it could evolve into griefing etc.. This way, any bounty hunters have a chance to "pick up" bounty opportunities, and the people being hunted have the opportunity of knowing they are being hunted. Now as far as comfirmation... i believe that the way to do this would be by having the Bounty Hunter take a screenshot of the dead player, and then have to post a reply to the thread within an hour. After this has been done, the person who posted the bounty and the BH would have to arrange a meeting to take care of pay etc.

If, after the player who had the bounty placed on him, has been killed by a BH, and gets approched by another...they could deny the duel and direct the BH to the thread to show that he has been killed for that bounty already.

Also, I think that when a BH approaches his bounty, he must challenge a duel, and say who posted the bounty on his head, and why.

just some thoughts.

Joc

Good stuff there.
Since we need people to volunteer as marks and informants and stuff this has to be 100% RP. That way we can weed out people setting bounties just because they don't like someone. I like your idea of having to RP a reason, keeps it interesting.

Should we allow others players to add to bounties? I think thats realistic. If there is a bounty on one person's head someone can add another, say 10K because the have a grievance with the mark as well.

At first I'd say nay to the BH giving a the name of who payed the bounty and why they were after him but the more I think about it the more I like it. It gives the mark more interest to find out why he was hunted down. It also gives the person to pay a bounty back on them.

Also BHs should be able to be bribbed, if they are willing to take it. Not that any respectible BH would. It would drastically hurt their reputation.

Good stuff so far, lets keep this rolling.

[Ekade]

I like this, but I think that you might want to consider dueling rules. The BH is pretty much always going to win, unless the player starts unreasonably buffing himself like crazy at all hours of the day, as the BH will know the confrontation is about to take place, and come to the party buffed.

I see your point... Some groups have written rules around RP combat. The problem with rules is that it becomes a matter of enforcing, judging, and updating them once their written. Suddenly you need the 3 branches of government in place.. and no one want to manage all that.

[JavierLQ]

X'an Shin wrote:
I like this, but I think that you might want to consider dueling rules. The BH is pretty much always going to win, unless the player starts unreasonably buffing himself like crazy at all hours of the day, as the BH will know the confrontation is about to take place, and come to the party buffed.


I see your point... Some groups have written rules around RP combat. The problem with rules is that it becomes a matter of enforcing, judging, and updating them once their written. Suddenly you need the 3 branches of government in place.. and no one want to manage all that.
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Thats why i think having one forum just for the system would be good. If you volunteer to be able to become a mark...it is up to YOU to check if you have any marks, and if you do, take the proper measures. If you decide to ignor it, then well it will be our fault, and do not have any right to complaint if you are killed by a BH that is buffed when you are not. Also, we need some kind of way to enforce that the Mark accepts the duel, perhaps if the dont they are charged X ammount of credits.

Joc

[Nyase]

Good ideas. However, I think sometimes the person hiring out the hunter should be able to choose to remain anonamous. After all, the Empire doesn't want the public to know that they're using a bounty hunter to kill off a public speaker against the empire. As for the screen shot, good idea, but not everyone has access to a image editing program to lower the size of it to post it on places like image dump.

[Seret Sajet]

Since the wacky staff here at SWG Tales will be hosting this system, the forum and all things inbetween we'll handle taking people's screenshots, sizing them down and optimizing them and even hosting them. The screens wouldn't be there forever though, eventually they would get archived.

I agree, there should always been the option of annoymous employers. Especially when it comes to the Empire or a Rebel who doesn't want to reveal their identity. At the same time some people won't be shy, they'll want people to know if you screw them over, they'll sick a BH on their hides.

We should enforce rules as far as we can without making it less fun and more work. We don't want to spend all our time judging these things. We want something simple like the screenshot to prove a mark has been taken out.