Why France can "suck it"

[Krusshyk]

For the love of crap...just when you think French people couldn't make themselves look any more high handed and snobby, they pull a doozy of a double whammy.

First off, the removal of baseball and softball from the olympics as of 2012. President of the IOC Jacque Rogge (nice name, dork) made some really intelligent comment about how these sports can "prove that they deserve to be in the olympics". Wow. When I think of sports that have proved they deserve to be medal events, I think vividly of curling. Let's sweep some ice and throw some stones. Sounds very worthy of worldwide competition. Also, the biathalon comes to mind. Ski. Shoot. Repeat. How someone from Chicago has not won this event yet baffles me.

Baseball is too American? And THAT is the reason it should be excluded? Forgetting the fact that the US has never won a gold medal in olympic baseball, and wasn't even representing North America in the last olympics...sounds like a great reason. Oh and then there is softball. Dominated by US women all 3 times it has been an olympic event. Sure...let's take out what has become one of THE most publicized olympic events for women. They don't need anymore opportunities to smash stereotypes about how women shouldn't or can't be athletes. Way to go you chauvanist bastard.

Secondly...21 uptight French sissies are suing a Japanese governor. Yeah, that's right...they are suing Japan. For what you ask? Is it for crimes against humanity? Violation of international law? Oh no, it's a far more heinous act than those...they are suing the governor of Tokyo for saying that the French langauge is a "failed international language".

Holy shit...you can sue people for slamming your country or language? Dude...we should start filing claims against every resident of Iran, Syria, and North Korea and just wait for the cash to start flowing in. If saying, "Your language has failed internationally" is worth 94,000 dollars...then being called "the great evil" has GOT to be worth a couple hundred thousand. Someone call the attorney general and have him start drafting papers. We could make a fortune. Here is the article.

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/050713/ap/d8bahg901.html

I read this article and I wanted desperately to punch someone. How pretentious do you have to be to pull garbage like this? Oh, of course...it's typical of me, the piggish American, to insult the French...because we are, afterall, war mongering and undignified pigs. But I wonder if they ever consider the fact that Americans despise the French because they are a bunch of high handed assholes? Doubtful, as they are probably too busy drinking shitty wine, eating shitty cheese, and giving cigarettes to babies to actually notice that they are total shit heads.

I thought it was lame when people started calling things "Freedom" fries and "Freedom" toast a while back. However, as of this posting, I wholly support the removal of all french influence on American culture altogether. It's now called Freedom salad dressing and Freedom silk pie as far as I am concerned. Screw Jacque Rogge. Screw those 21 translators and teachers. And screw the rest of France. It's sad that a country with as much historic beauty as France is full of ugly people. Next time they get invaded, I say we stay home, drink beer, and watch it on tv. All the while saying, "Wow...I would almost feel bad for them if they didn't have it coming."

Edited to say: I used some harsh language initially, which, after re-reading, sounded inappropriate. Apologies. I toned it down a notch. I am still displeased, just with softer language.

[MrDooo]

Krussh, just for you I'm gonna SLATHER THE HELL out of my french vanilla ice cream with hershey syrup.

[Orph@N]

ROFL you undignified, war mongering PIG!!! Pass the ice cream please

[Hashum]

Forget Syria, Iran, North Korea, let's just sue the French. That just means I'm going to get more harrasment for my French last name however. ::Sighs::

[Novall]

Outside of Canada...I've never met a frenchman/woman that I wanna share air with.

I say we nuke'em. Its the easy way out.

[Ekade]

Funny, but dont click if French jokes bother you...

http://www.backwoodshome.com/humor/salutetofrance.html

[MrDooo]

Keep going guys! This'll be funny - Krussh will have to mod his own thread soon!



BTW - Sakai rules

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/hiroyuk ... 87,00.html

[warsloth]

Nuke them.

[Krusshyk]

Hmmm...Dooo, perhaps I was too hasty in my dismissal of all things French. Iron Chef Hiroyuki Sakai DOES kick ass. While his cuisine is French, I will cede the fact that he is the greatest of the Iron Chefs.

[Illbleed]

I read this article and I wanted desperately to punch someone. How pretentious do you have to be to pull garbage like this? Oh, of course...it's typical of me, the piggish American, to insult the French...because we are, afterall, war mongering and undignified pigs. But I wonder if they ever consider the fact that Americans despise the French because they are a bunch of high handed assholes? Doubtful, as they are probably too busy drinking shitty wine, eating shitty cheese, and giving cigarettes to babies to actually notice that they are total shit heads.

Dude, your awesome. I'm in total agreement. After all we did for those bastards in WWII, they still hate us.

I don't "hate" or judge by the group, but from the French people I've met I can honestly say that I'm not impressed. They do tend to hate American culture with a passion and can't seem to seperate the culture and the people.

[Jaminos]

Keep going guys! This'll be funny - Krussh will have to mod his own thread soon!



BTW - Sakai rules

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/hiroyuk ... 87,00.html

Sakai and chen are the reasons why i ever watch anything on food network is because they are both the bad asses of the food world.

[Krusshyk]

I read this article and I wanted desperately to punch someone. How pretentious do you have to be to pull garbage like this? Oh, of course...it's typical of me, the piggish American, to insult the French...because we are, afterall, war mongering and undignified pigs. But I wonder if they ever consider the fact that Americans despise the French because they are a bunch of high handed assholes? Doubtful, as they are probably too busy drinking shitty wine, eating shitty cheese, and giving cigarettes to babies to actually notice that they are total shit heads.

Dude, your awesome. I'm in total agreement. After all we did for those bastards in WWII, they still hate us.

I don't "hate" or judge by the group, but from the French people I've met I can honestly say that I'm not impressed. They do tend to hate American culture with a passion and can't seem to seperate the culture and the people.

Don't get me wrong...I don't want to play the "You should be speaking German right now, if not for us" card, because let's face it...that argument is a little tired. We have been using it for a half century, after all. True...maybe, but let's move on to more recent things. LIKE THIS. Dude...if I am ever arrogant enough to sue someone for saying the way I do something is inefficient for another person, then please...I will gladly accept any ass whooping someone would like to give me. Pricks like that deserve a kick in the ass.

English sure isn't all that efficient internationally either (in fact, it is routinely described as one of the harder languages to learn)...I am sure it has been said as much publicly. But you don't see US citizens, or more rightly so, British citizens, getting their panties in an uproar and demanding financial restitution. Are these people really so desperate for respect that they feel the need to litigate (internationally, no less) to prove that they deserve it?

When I was little, I was always told that the people who demanded respect were often times undeserving. The ones who earned it didn't have to demand it.

Duh.

[X'an Shin]

Krussh, just for you I'm gonna SLATHER THE HELL out of my french vanilla ice cream with hershey syrup.

I believe you meant to say FREEDOM vanilla ice cream.

[X'an Shin]

I just wanted to add that I found this to be a beautiful rant, Krussh. It brought a tear to my eye.

I'm letting you borrow the crown for the night. Bring it home, impress your lady... ;)

[Isleh]

The French - Why do they hate us?

http://slate.msn.com/id/2077874/



Edward Rothstein: We Hate the French, The French Hate Us
http://hnn.us/roundup/comments/10799.html

Edward Rothstein, in the NYT (3-14-05):

... The accumulated evidence of France's flaws can be compelling, but what pale stuff this is compared with Francophobia's French counterpart! Next month, the University of Chicago Press will publish a book that attracted much attention when it first appeared in France, in 2002: "The American Enemy: The History of French Anti-Americanism" by Philippe Roger (the translation is by Sharon Bowman).

Mr. Roger, who teaches at the École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales in Paris, almost single-handedly creates a new field of study, tracing the nuances and imagery of anti-Americanism in France over 250 years. He shows that far from being a specific reaction to recent American policies, it has been knit into the very substance of French intellectual and cultural life.

While American Francophobia can seem transient, news oriented, associated with the political right and theatrical in character, French anti-Americanism - like a venerable Old World tradition - reaches far and deep. It is championed by both the left and right. And over its long evolutionary course, various scientific, philosophical, political, social and racial justifications have been offered. Mr. Roger suggests that its convictions are so fundamental that they are barely recognized, and they are spreading.

Mr. Roger does not debate whether or not particular manifestations of anti-Americanism are justified or unjustified. Mostly, he seems to think them unjustified, but that doesn't matter: anti-Americanism is not the result of perceptions, rather, it determines them. Nor is he interested in counterexamples like Lafayette or Tocqueville except if they shed light on his theme. He points out, for example, that Tocqueville's classic dissection of democracy in 19th-century America was widely criticized for portraying a "sugar-coated America." "In its repetition and perpetuation," Mr. Roger writes, "French anti-Americanism must be analyzed as a tradition." It is, he suggests, a "discourse," a way of thinking and speaking about the world that has its own premises and logic.

Before the founding of the United States, for example, one reaction to the Romantic idealization of the New World came in a series of scientific studies of the continent's plant and animal life. In 1768, the naturalist Cornelius De Pauw called America a "vast and sterile desert" whose climate nurtured "astonishingly idiotic" men. The natural historian Buffon claimed that its animals were stunted miniatures of their Old World counterparts. These assertions were so widely believed in France that Thomas Jefferson devoted considerable energy to their refutation.

Naturalism's hostility then gave way to social condescension from both royalists and republicans.

Scorn of America became a literary trope. In Balzac's novels, Mr. Roger points out, it is the "good-for-nothings" who go to America. In Stendhal's novels, various characters' disdain for the United States and what one calls the "culture of the god dollar" seem to echo the author's own convictions.

Mr. Roger argues that during the Civil War, many in French society hoped that the South would be victorious partly because it would provide more opportunities for French power. But the war was also seen as a racial battle between Anglo-Saxons in the North and Latins - almost Franco-Latins - in the South. For France, the Civil War replicated the larger power struggle it was confronting in Europe.

By the end of the 19th century, French writers also began to fear American power. One writer referred to Uncle Sam as "Oncle Shylock," resonantly adding anti-Semitism into the mix. In the 20th century, French politicians blamed the United States for joining the First World War too late, then for insisting that France repay its debts.

Intellectuals like Sartre credited the Soviet Union with winning the Second World War and said that England and the United States invaded just to get in on the victory. After the war, Mr. Roger writes, "what was left to defend in France? Frenchness."

Mr. Roger does not fully explain the reasons for an antipathy so far out of proportion to any nation's flaws, but his book stuns with its accumulated detail and analysis. Addressing his French readers, Mr. Roger argues that through this obsessive anti-American discourse, "we are shackled, unbeknownst to ourselves, to a whole past of repugnance and repulsions."

With such a past, how can America's contribution to this confrontation hope to compete?