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Notes on the patch in regards to Dancer...

PostedWed Jul 20, 2005 4:51 pm
by Ekade
I did some experimenting and performing last night and...

:eek:

WOW!

This is arguably the biggest Dancer-love patch we have seen.


Dancer XP:

- XP comes once per "tick". A "tick" is 10 seconds.
- There are 2 kinds of XP now, Dancer and Entertainment XP.
- If you do a fourish you will get entertainment xp for the next tick. You will also get "max" dancer xp (for that dance) for that tick. The next tick, if you do not flourish, you will get no entertainment xp, and what appears to be 80% Dancer xp from the first tick. Each subsequent tick is a further degradation of Dancer xp until it vanishes.
- Grouping does help your XP. I still have yet to determine if grouping with higher level entertainers provides bonuses like it did before.
- Higher-level dances give more XP

Sooo.. What does this mean?

If you want to get the most XP, flourish at least once every 10 seconds. Even better if you are in a group.


Dances:

Bundaki (sp?) is a very very nice addition to the dances we have. It "drifts", but not as bad as Formal and Lyrical. The speed of the dance is upbeat, so it will fit nicely with some of the fast songs, yet also it is very graceful and looks good with props (see below).


Props:

These are way cool. :D We've discovered that some props don't look good with some dances. For example, in Popular 2, the dancer holds her arms very close to her body, thus you dont see much movement of the prop. Bundaki, on the other hand, has the dancer moving her arms in long, sweeping motions. The visual effect is stunning.

Dya and I were performing Bundaki w/props at the Ryll Den last night and it looked spectacular. I had the double-sided Mystical ribbons, and she had the double-sided sparklers. All I could say was "WOW". It was a stunning effect.


Flourishes:

All 8 flourishes now function for Exotics 1-4. However, they are all the same. Meaning, Flourish 4 is the exact same flourish regardless of what Exotic you are doing. Still, it is much better than before. The only new flourish is #7.

I did not explore the other dances to see if they changed any of their flourishes.


Lightshows:

Not much to say here.

These are nice.. the "Saturday Night Fever" dancefloor effect is cool for the modern dances. The new spotlight one looks spiffy as well.

They also gave us the ability to select someone else and put lights on them. The effect is not all that striking, in my opinion.

PostedThu Jul 21, 2005 1:36 pm
by Sti-Fi
And to add for the musician?

Swing ROCKS! It's a great tune and a lot of fun. It's neat getting a more definted horn & percussion sound. I have yet to hear it on the nala, and folks are 50/50 on whether they like it.

The new musician light effects? NICE! The laser show is really cool and so is the solo spotlight. Fire jet2 really goes too fast to be cool.

PostedThu Jul 21, 2005 1:50 pm
by Jaminos
...I want some love for bounty hunters...or pistoleers...Duel weilding guns...dancers look nice but I want my guns.

PostedThu Jul 21, 2005 3:44 pm
by Zyre Mercutio
Jaminos wrote:...I want some love for bounty hunters...or pistoleers...Duel weilding guns...dancers look nice but I want my guns.
Well to be fair since the game's inception there have been 50+ new weapons
added, and thats a conservative estimate. In the same two years as a musician I have received 0/zero/nada/zilch new musical instrument.
So in all fairness I think gun love has been shown, now spread a little of that
the band's way!

Zzzzzz
www.kreetles.com

PostedThu Jul 21, 2005 3:57 pm
by Dwilah
Zyre Mercutio wrote:
Jaminos wrote:...I want some love for bounty hunters...or pistoleers...Duel weilding guns...dancers look nice but I want my guns.
Well to be fair since the game's inception there have been 50+ new weapons
added, and thats a conservative estimate. In the same two years as a musician I have received 0/zero/nada/zilch new musical instrument.
So in all fairness I think gun love has been shown, now spread a little of that
the band's way!
Yeah...and can we forget the CU? :)

PostedThu Jul 21, 2005 3:59 pm
by Ekade
Zyre Mercutio wrote:
Jaminos wrote:...I want some love for bounty hunters...or pistoleers...Duel weilding guns...dancers look nice but I want my guns.
Well to be fair since the game's inception there have been 50+ new weapons
added, and thats a conservative estimate. In the same two years as a musician I have received 0/zero/nada/zilch new musical instrument.
So in all fairness I think gun love has been shown, now spread a little of that
the band's way!

Zzzzzz
www.kreetles.com
/QFT (Quoted for truth)

PostedThu Jul 21, 2005 4:35 pm
by Novall
Zyre Mercutio wrote:
Jaminos wrote:...I want some love for bounty hunters...or pistoleers...Duel weilding guns...dancers look nice but I want my guns.
Well to be fair since the game's inception there have been 50+ new weapons
added, and thats a conservative estimate. In the same two years as a musician I have received 0/zero/nada/zilch new musical instrument.
So in all fairness I think gun love has been shown, now spread a little of that
the band's way!

Zzzzzz
www.kreetles.com
Atleast your profession is working better then ours ATM :)

PostedThu Jul 21, 2005 6:20 pm
by Isleh
Novall wrote:
Zyre Mercutio wrote:
Jaminos wrote:...I want some love for bounty hunters...or pistoleers...Duel weilding guns...dancers look nice but I want my guns.
Well to be fair since the game's inception there have been 50+ new weapons
added, and thats a conservative estimate. In the same two years as a musician I have received 0/zero/nada/zilch new musical instrument.
So in all fairness I think gun love has been shown, now spread a little of that
the band's way!

Zzzzzz
www.kreetles.com
Atleast your profession is working better then ours ATM :)
Well... it's kind of hard to mess up one buff and lots of special emotes but I'm sure it isn't ( or is ) for lack of effort. :razz:

PostedThu Jul 21, 2005 6:57 pm
by Ekade
Novall wrote:
Zyre Mercutio wrote:
Jaminos wrote:...I want some love for bounty hunters...or pistoleers...Duel weilding guns...dancers look nice but I want my guns.
Well to be fair since the game's inception there have been 50+ new weapons
added, and thats a conservative estimate. In the same two years as a musician I have received 0/zero/nada/zilch new musical instrument.
So in all fairness I think gun love has been shown, now spread a little of that
the band's way!

Zzzzzz
www.kreetles.com
Atleast your profession is working better then ours ATM :)
If by "working" you mean taking away 75% of your usefulness and replacing it with nothing, then yeah.. it's working like a champ. :wink:

PostedThu Jul 21, 2005 8:41 pm
by Novall
Ekade wrote:
Novall wrote:
Zyre Mercutio wrote: Well to be fair since the game's inception there have been 50+ new weapons
added, and thats a conservative estimate. In the same two years as a musician I have received 0/zero/nada/zilch new musical instrument.
So in all fairness I think gun love has been shown, now spread a little of that
the band's way!

Zzzzzz
www.kreetles.com
Atleast your profession is working better then ours ATM :)
If by "working" you mean taking away 75% of your usefulness and replacing it with nothing, then yeah.. it's working like a champ. :wink:
So were in the same boat then. Heh, nothing like nerfing the hell outta 2 profs at once.

PostedThu Jul 21, 2005 9:26 pm
by Oeree
Yeah, I want some new instrument. Also, being able to stand or sit down while playing the mando. :D

PostedFri Jul 22, 2005 1:07 am
by Zyre Mercutio
Oeree wrote:Yeah, I want some new instrument. Also, being able to stand or sit down while playing the mando. :D
Ahhh good call, something that would give the effect of an "MTV Unplugged"
acoustic look.


Zzzzzz

PostedWed Jul 27, 2005 2:38 am
by Dwilah
Something dancer related I just thought of. It seems like many entertainers would not approve of the professions being skill pointless, provided they have some proved value to the game.

Would entertainers in this community (just curious) support entertainer, dancer, and musician being "free" like pilot professions are--you have to work to get the skills with XP and missions, but they don't take up any skillpoints?

I hope that the entertainment classes get more buffing abilities to make them more interactable with the combat and crafting professions, but this is just one of those random "what ifs" I thought of while tooling around tonight.

PostedWed Jul 27, 2005 6:09 am
by Isleh
I would love and hate it. I would be able to dance again on my real main BUT if they did that, entertainers would never see any real content ever again.

PostedWed Jul 27, 2005 2:39 pm
by IagoBoom
I'd hate it. It'd give everyone entertainer capabilities, and further reduce the purpose of my chosen profession. It'd also hurt The Kreetles immensly by resulting in half of the audience deciding it'd be fun to start their own band, after seeing us in action...and reducing attendance at events like The Roba.