SPLIT: Ewoks!

Krusshyk wrote:Regardless, you shouldn't hate on Willow. Why? Because you would be making fun of an Ewok. And that's just not cool.
Don't get me started on Ewoks. :wink:


True or False: Star wars was cool right up to the point when we saw an ewok on the screen.

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The only thing that bothered me about the Ewoks was how effective they were against the Emperors "best legions". Totally lame.

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Jabe Adaks wrote:The only thing that bothered me about the Ewoks was how effective they were against the Emperors "best legions". Totally lame.

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/totallyagree

The Empire was the coolest entity I had ever seen.. and to see it fall to a bunch of teddy bears was... tragically lame.

Maybe the rebels should have turned in their x-wings, blasters, and snowspeeders for stone-age weapons.

C'mon GL!! <shakes fist>
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Don't be hatin on the Ewoks. Those little furry guys ruled. It was a classic case of Imperial over confidence and and the underdog won. It's just like the Revolutionary war. The Colonies used guerilla tactics and was able to defeat the well trained English army despite their superior numbers and weapons.

The only thing that bothered me about that part of the film was the timing. I don't see how they could have arranged such traps for the Imperial's given the time they had to prepare (5 minutes?) so unless they'd already had many of the traps set for their own safety against their natural predators or for hunting (such as the one Chewie stumbles on) I just can't buy the organization. But other then that I loved those guys.
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Hashum wrote:Don't be hatin on the Ewoks. Those little furry guys ruled.
I am a card carrying ewok hater. And proud of it!


Let me ask you this..

Was the scene in Episode I.. where Jar-Jar Binks was stumbling around with a battle droid stuck on his foot.. causing it to shoot other battle droids:
A) Brilliant!
B) Wonderfully hilarious
C) Completely plausible
D) All of the above
E) Just as f-ed up as the idea that ewoks can defeat an entire legion of the Emperor's best troops
F) Ekade, shut up
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I would like to point out that many, many Ewoks died in that scene thanks to blasterfire and stuff. It was sad. And I really don't get the Ewok hating. Anyone (even uberskills) can be overwhelmed by superior numbers and surprise. (Order 66 anyone?)
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It's downright embarassing that the Imperials were taking down by those sub-creatures. The inclusion of the Ewoks(and dare I say Jar-Jar Binks) was to appeal to the younger children. It's proposterous with the far far superior technology of the Empire that the Ewoks would even triumph.

Besides, they're furry and they probably shed. I bet they aren't even house trained!
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I would have to say E. without question.... except a little F is okay.

Its obvious why GL included ewoks and Jar Jar... children = money.

What is GL? a money monger. I think this speaks for itself.
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Hashum wrote:It's just like the Revolutionary war. The Colonies used guerilla tactics and was able to defeat the well trained English army despite their superior numbers and weapons.
Time for some uncomfortable truths here as I know there is much French hate pervading the community. In my admittedly non-professional standing as a military history buff, yes it's true that guerilla tactics were used to good advantage agaist the British Imperial forces during the Revolutionary War. But my fellow citizens, like it or not, 'twas the French Navy that sealed the deal "for the win" at the Battle of Yorktown and the "beginning of the end" of the war. Guerilla tactics withstanding, a technologically equal force checkmated the Brits. That's not opinion, that's history.

Now on the Star Wars angle, if the Ewoks say, were even struggling against the Emperor's best legions and got some close air support from the stolen Lambda Shuttle (tricked out by Han and Chewie for extra damage perhaps?? *shrug*) THEN I maybe could have bought the defeat.

Rebels in the Death Star trench run outnumbered and still winning? Yeah, that's plausible. But, I have to agree that Lucas wanted to throw in the sentimentality despite... whatever. And he had every right to end his story how he wanted. Oh well. *shrug*
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I read somewhere originally Endor was suppose to be the Wookies home world but before shooting GL and marketing got together and thought that the movie needed cuddly plush to sale and so the Ewoks where born.
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Well I think that sience the Ewoks knew the woods inside out compared to the Imperials who could only guess had the disadvantage of all the little holes and trees to hide in. Though a Fully trained Elite Stormy should be able to take six teddy bares alone without even a mere fleshwound. The Ewoks also took them deep into the forest so they could ambush them. However the Imperials have sensors built into their helmets (Only guessing) that can dectect life sigantures.

However In a forest where somewhere a giant ewok known as the Gorax hangs out it could mess up such life sigantures. A Stormy should however have had an advantage over a furry animal with a rock. It was one of those things where every once in a while a small furry creature can somehow defeat an entire legion of Stormies.

For example tell me how five X-wings got past experienced Turbo laser gunners. Even in their small size a volley of a hundred bolts of lazer should hit at least one but somehow they dodge each one plus the empires best Tie-Fighter pilots and manage to blow up the Death Star.

All in all I think it was a simple Genocide for a Storm Trooper that went terribley wrong. Given a three on one fight in an arena with a Stormy versus three Ewoks fully trained in spears would die agains a Elite Stormy with no harm to the Stormy.
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Jaminos wrote:Well I think that sience the Ewoks knew the woods inside out compared to the Imperials who could only guess had the disadvantage of all the little holes and trees to hide in. Though a Fully trained Elite Stormy should be able to take six teddy bares alone without even a mere fleshwound. The Ewoks also took them deep into the forest so they could ambush them. However the Imperials have sensors built into their helmets (Only guessing) that can dectect life sigantures.

However In a forest where somewhere a giant ewok known as the Gorax hangs out it could mess up such life sigantures. A Stormy should however have had an advantage over a furry animal with a rock. It was one of those things where every once in a while a small furry creature can somehow defeat an entire legion of Stormies.

For example tell me how five X-wings got past experienced Turbo laser gunners. Even in their small size a volley of a hundred bolts of lazer should hit at least one but somehow they dodge each one plus the empires best Tie-Fighter pilots and manage to blow up the Death Star.

All in all I think it was a simple Genocide for a Storm Trooper that went terribley wrong. Given a three on one fight in an arena with a Stormy versus three Ewoks fully trained in spears would die agains a Elite Stormy with no harm to the Stormy.
I don't think its a quest of Ewok home court advantage.

I think its more of a question of what good is Stormtrooper armor if they are easily overcome by rocks and sticks.

Its a simple matter of misdirection. Don't hate the Ewoks, hate the horribly inaffective Stormtroopers. ;)
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StormTrooper armor is just basicly a black skintight sock with a shell over it. No special sensors, just a shell with a comlink in the helm. We dun call em plasticmen in the game for nothing.

Taken from Star Wars Databank:

The soldiers of the Empire struck with frightening anonymity, their faces completely obscured by unmistakable white armor. While the 18-piece armored shell offers limited protection from blaster fire, it also serves as a weapon of terror.
The bone-white armor fits over a black temperature-control body glove. Built-in helmet comlinks supplemented by belt-mounted hand-held units ensure that stormtroopers are always in touch with their superiors. Standardized utility belts offer ammunition for blaster sidearms, and helpful tools such as grappling hooks and cable. Stormtrooper armor also serves as a limited space suit for protection against hard vacuum.

The Empire maintained a number of variant armor styles to fit different mission profiles. The armor of desert terrain units, cold assault divisions and scout squadrons are all slightly different.

Luke Skywalker and Han Solo took advantage of the faceless stormtrooper uniform when infiltrating the Death Star prior to the Battle of Yavin. They were able to surreptitiously enter the battle station's detention block to free a captive Princess Leia Organa.

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I mean comeon look at it lol, it's like a fullbody hardhat. Ever had a hardhat on and have a brick fall and tag your head? I have and sure it stopped my head from being split wide open, but knocked me right the fug out!! ........
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