Even the Vatican doesn't believe in "Intelligent Design

What the vatican says

"Intelligent design" not science: Vatican paper

By Tom Heneghan, Religion Editor Thu Jan 19, 10:52 AM ET

PARIS (Reuters) - The Roman Catholic Church has restated its support for evolution with an article praising a U.S. court decision that rejects the "intelligent design" theory as non-scientific.

The Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano said that teaching intelligent design -- which argues that life is so complex that it needed a supernatural creator -- alongside Darwin's theory of evolution would only cause confusion....

..."Intelligent design does not belong to science and there is no justification for the demand it be taught as a scientific theory alongside the Darwinian explanation," said the article in the Tuesday edition of the newspaper.

Evolution represents "the interpretative key of the history of life on Earth" and the debate in the United States was "polluted by political positions," wrote Fiorenzo Facchini, a professor of evolutionary biology at Italy's Bologna University.

"So the decision by the Pennsylvania judge seems correct."

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Amen. :cool:
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it's hard to take, when your church has forsaken you :sad:
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Must be...

personally I wouldn't know.

I neither believe in I.D. or belong to the Roman Catholic church.
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Actually they aren't saying that they don't believe in intelligent design, they are saying it is not science. And it is not, it is faith. If the press reported things in the proper context, which they rarely do, you wouldn't get confused.
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What E-bo has just demonstrated for us all to see is called, "hitting the nail on the head."
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warsloth wrote:What E-bo has just demonstrated for us all to see is called, "hitting the nail on the head."
/cough


not quite
This literal reading of Genesis, the first book of the Bible, is a tenet of faith for evangelical Protestants, a group that has become politically influential in the United States.

Many U.S. Catholics may agree with evangelicals politically, but the Church does not share their theology on this point. Intelligent design has few supporters outside the United States.
therefore, they do not believe in ID
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So what you are saying is the church doesn't believe that God created the heavens and earth?

They may have some other name for it that isn't some dumb ass political term, but they believe that God created everything in one way or another.

I am not a supporter of ID being taught in science class either. I think your faith is a choice not a state mandate.
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I think what the Catholics (not Skor) are saying is that they believe in Genesis. Intelligent Design is an interpretation of what is found in the pages of Genesis, retooled to give god some personality and to say he was clever and cloy.

The Vatican does not believe in interpretation, clever, or cloy. They go for omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, and absolute. The Vatican doesn't really even follow the King James version of the Bible (like most American Catholics do, commonly considered to be the oldest proper "English" version), they read the Latin one (2nd version), as most people don't know Greek or Aramaic, which is probably what the first version was written in.

So no, they don't support Intelligent Design. They support Genesis.
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Religious thread.

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Jabe Adaks wrote:Religious thread.

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I wasn't going to say anything. It's not my job. I am just the most frequently stereotyped poster on the subject.
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Jabe Adaks wrote:Religious thread.

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I wasn't going to say anything. It's not my job. I am just the most frequently stereotyped poster on the subject.
It wasn't directed at you.
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Not sure but I believe the first was written in Hebrew?
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Safia wrote:Not sure but I believe the first was written in Hebrew?
Well, the old testament was. But just the Old Testament isn't the Bible. It's the Torah. New testament was in Aramaic, or Greek, according to Yahoo (and I've read similar from other Biblical scholars).

So what we consider to be the Bible (Old and New Testament combined) was written in Aramaic or Greek.
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