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"Then I'll see you in hell!"

Note: hell. Was downloading some SW sound wav clips today and ran across this gem. We go on fairly often about immersion with vocabulary, buu-uuut...? Thoughts?

That's one that I could easily let slide.

In our own experience we see that the concept of Heaven and Hell is found in most of the religions on Earth, some developing totally independent of each other according to our best science.

If it could develop here, it could have developed possibly long ago in a galaxy far away...(couldn't help it).

I see no problem. Every religion, like Keer said, has some version of hell. Why can't Star Wars have its own? It can, simple as that.

Seret Sajet wrote:I see no problem. Every religion, like Keer said, has some version of hell. Why can't Star Wars have its own? It can, simple as that.

Yeah, the SW universe has to have some sort of religion...now that The Force is a medical condition as established in EP1.

Well, I wasn't arguing so much as in, what about the mechanics. We know there's religion in Star Wars. The Force is still a religion whether there's a scientific basis for it or not. There's scientific basis for a lot of Earth religions but that doesn't make a lotta people believe in them. SW Universe has monks, cults, and blah blah all that mess.

What I really meant more like, as a vocabulary word...do you think we, as an RPing community who seems to try and promote more "Star Wars universe vocabulary and slang" promote the use of the word 'hell' because it was used in the movies?

....especially because when Han says it, it's so badass. Ooo.

I see what you mean and I still say yes, Hell should be a common word. The fact remains that basic is the english language. If we replace Hell with a SW-like slang word then we'll have to start replacing other english words with slang and eventually we'd have our own language. That is something I'm sure we don't want.

The word hell, like so many others we use in everyday conversation, has some emotion behind it. Telling someone "See you in Hell" or "Burn in Hell" has some bite to it. For arguements sake lets say we replace hell with "Lex." Saying "Go to Lex" or "Burn in Lex" will just end up sounding silly and now you've got the burden of getting a whole community to fall in line. Sometimes we want to use english words that have a kick so therefore we should keep a few in-game.

I love blending english and other dialects with SW slang. For example I try to play Nile with a Scottish accent just for fun. I love calling someone a "daft gurk" or yelling "Ey' I hope ye speeder blows a repulsor in the middle of a swamp ye daft bastard!"

I just gives everything a bit of color.

I think there is really a place for religion in RP. I am really surprise this aspect of gaming hasn't been exploited more. I am not a religious zealot but the lack of this has always fascinated me. I bought the domain "gamewithgod.com" with the intent of giving religious role players on the net a place to discuss and figure all this out. I just haven't done anything with it yet.

Jabe

Ugh, from experience the only religion and gaming mix I've seen is annoying.

In my BF1942 days we played on the server of a clan called MoH (Men of God). Every 5 seconds they threw some scripture or Jesus line down your throat in their messages. They'd kick you out if you swore and they'd hound you if you name was what they deemed "inappropriate." They just made the whole experience void of fun.

But I don't want to get into this. I say leave your beliefs at the door and game. If your beliefs get in the way then don't game.

But this is off topic. The subject is about the word "hell" not religion. Lets not derail this thread with religious banter.

Yeah Men of God and my clan were always at odds in Americas Army also. Something about our names. As the clan leader I had to set a good example so my name was [BrewMan]_Drunk247. Ah... The BrewMan Clan. Brings back good memories. Then you had to go and destroy them with MoH.

But, on topic:

I have decided that E-bo is strictly against all organized religion. Well technically she prefers chaos to order. Arifo, in contrast, believes in a higher being. She has yet to discover one yet. The idea of there being an organized, non-fanatical, religion Rp'd on a server intrigues me. Especially since Arifo has performed several wedding services. It would not be a reach for her character to become a minister of sorts. I may explore this if someone else is interested in it.

Jabe Adaks wrote:I think there is really a place for religion in RP. I am really surprise this aspect of gaming hasn't been exploited more. I am not a religious zealot but the lack of this has always fascinated me. I bought the domain "gamewithgod.com" with the intent of giving religious role players on the net a place to discuss and figure all this out. I just haven't done anything with it yet.

Jabe

I attempt to roleplay Ekade as a priestess. I'm not sure if this is what you are talking about but religions, cults, and the philosohies that come from them make for some very interesting roleplay possibilities.

Jedi are the keepers of a "religion" in the SW universe.

Coiy had a great post about a TKM who taught him a little about the philosophies of the art.

Seret told me that his character is "spiritual".

To make religions work in game, I think it would help to borrow concepts from existing religions, and star wars-ize them. Religions and philosophies are great ways to add depth to your character. They can also serve as a means to change your character. "Finding religion" can be a way your character turns from evil to good, develops a stonger resolve, a broader outlook, a deeper insight, or whatever.

Whoa slow down people we're getting way off topic here.

I'm afraid I contributed to that as well.

As Dwilah said its not about Religion in SW, that is a seperate topic which I will split out of this thread and make its own.

What she is asking is if the WORD should be used. See her last reply and the one I made after it. Thats the actuall topic, not in-game religion.

Ekade wrote:To make religions work in game, I think it would help to borrow concepts from existing religions, and star wars-ize them. Religions and philosophies are great ways to add depth to your character. They can also serve as a means to change your character. "Finding religion" can be a way your character turns from evil to good, develops a stonger resolve, a broader outlook, a deeper insight, or whatever.

I think you're right. Integrations is key to anything introduced from RL in to Star Wars. Seret's quote about guys hounding him is just nuts. I don't think it belongs in an evangelical sense but as a reason for character actions.

Jabe

Yes, back on topic, we said in another topic about cursing. Hell and the other PG word Damn would seem to fit in just fine with Star Wars vocabulary to me. It's just not the *bleep* words I think, and obviously not an emphatic "Jesus!" because there wouldn't be a Star Wars context to it.

I disagree. I think the occasional f-bomb can be well done. Coiyonite and Jabe argued in a story line where Coiyonite just leveled with him and said "They fucked us." There was no other real way of saying what he was trying to say - as far as I am concerned.

Do I drop f-bombs all the time? No. But I think it has its place. Just because its not in the movies doesn't mean people in Star Wars don't get that pissed off. Without the occasional curse, its just not real.

Jabe

Hmm...debatable to my mind. But I can see your point.