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School Expels Girl for Having Gay Parents

Fri Sep 23, 7:05 AM ET

ONTARIO, Calif. - A 14-year-old student was expelled from a Christian school because her parents are lesbians, the school's superintendent said in a letter.

Shay Clark was expelled from Ontario Christian School on Thursday.

"Your family does not meet the policies of admission," Superintendent Leonard Stob wrote to Tina Clark, the girl's biological mother.

Stob wrote that school policy requires that at least one parent may not engage in practices "immoral or inconsistent with a positive Christian life style, such as cohabitating without marriage or in a homosexual relationship," The Los Angeles Times reported in Friday's edition.
okay, so ONE parent can be immoral or gay, but just not TWO parents?!?!?! and how does just ONE parent cohabitate without marriage??!?!?!
Stob could not be reached for comment by the newspaper. Shay and her parents said they won't fight the ruling.

School administrators learned of the parents' relationship this week after Shay was reprimanded for talking to the crowd during a football game, Tina Clark said.

Clark and her partner have been together 22 years and have two other daughters, ages 9 and 19.
OMG, she was talking to the crowd at a football game???? that sinner!!! how dare she talk at a football game!!! a football crowd must sit and be quiet, while they pray for their crappy christian football team to victory, over the infidels...
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while they pray for their crappy christian football team to victory, over the infidels...
Uh, Christians don't do teh infidel ting. That's muslim/islam.

Also: Private school. They can expel you for whatever they feel like, if I'm not mistaken, although I'd be interested to see what local business laws have to say about it, unless they're "protected" because they're also a church.
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I have a real problem with the hypocricy here. Neo Christians have a problem with the gay and homosexual community in regards to creating an "exclusive and unique community. Yet, the far right heralds Christian schools that promote exclusitivity by their very nature. Absolute and pure hypocricy.
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What always amazes me is that our 'land of the free' contridicts itself with stories like this one.

We're stuck in this wierd government where you have a 'private' right to discriminate against social issues? Then damn near everyone will unite for a common cause like Freedom?

Something just doesn't make sense about it.
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this thread should probably get locked before I have time to make a half decent comment.

the obvious reason for ONE parent, is that some people are widows widowers and just single parents. So cohabitation is very possible. Plus how does a lesbian couple have kids anyway? since there is no way for them to make offspring on their own, it is possible that they are from another marriage.
Also since they aren't married this becomes a cohabitating relationship, breaking both rules.

My wife and I didn't "cohabitate" before we were married. Does that make me some kind of Neo Christian zealot Nazi? Just because we didn't see the need for the rediculous "test drive" everyone else seems to think you need?

I don't neccessarily agree with what this school did, but as the board's token jerkface dude, I had to coment.
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warsloth wrote:this thread should probably get locked before I have time to make a half decent comment.

the obvious reason for ONE parent, is that some people are widows widowers and just single parents. So cohabitation is very possible. Plus how does a lesbian couple have kids anyway? since there is no way for them to make offspring on their own, it is possible that they are from another marriage.
Also since they aren't married this becomes a cohabitating relationship, breaking both rules.

My wife and I didn't "cohabitate" before we were married. Does that make me some kind of Neo Christian zealot Nazi? Just because we didn't see the need for the rediculous "test drive" everyone else seems to think you need?

I don't neccessarily agree with what this school did, but as the board's token jerkface dude, I had to coment.
Of course, this was not meant as a personal attack but a mere observation of how far the right will try to push their agenda. Children always are the first ones to suffer. It's not right.
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Illbleed wrote:
warsloth wrote:this thread should probably get locked before I have time to make a half decent comment.

the obvious reason for ONE parent, is that some people are widows widowers and just single parents. So cohabitation is very possible. Plus how does a lesbian couple have kids anyway? since there is no way for them to make offspring on their own, it is possible that they are from another marriage.
Also since they aren't married this becomes a cohabitating relationship, breaking both rules.

My wife and I didn't "cohabitate" before we were married. Does that make me some kind of Neo Christian zealot Nazi? Just because we didn't see the need for the rediculous "test drive" everyone else seems to think you need?

I don't neccessarily agree with what this school did, but as the board's token jerkface dude, I had to coment.
Of course, this was not meant as a personal attack but a mere observation of how far the right will try to push their agenda. Children always are the first ones to suffer. It's not right.
Careful folks or the big stick will come out and lock this thread.
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Pardon? I heard "big stick" and I came running as fast as I could.

Oh...my bad.

Anywho...despite our rules, there isn't really a reason to drag politics into this discussion anyhow. All closed minded people are not neccessarily conservative and not all conservatives are closed minded...

That aside, it is kinda dumb that she got the boot. But there is a sad bit of truth to what X'an said earlier...private schools have the luxury of making their own rules if they want to divorce themselves from public funding. If you want your kid to go to what sounds like a private Christain school (a key element of this discussion), then you play by their rules (stupid though they may be). Exclusionary as it sounds, that's how things work around here. Ya know, that whole church and state thing.
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Krusshyk wrote:
That aside, it is kinda dumb that she got the boot. But there is a sad bit of truth to what X'an said earlier...private schools have the luxury of making their own rules if they want to divorce themselves from public funding. If you want your kid to go to what sounds like a private Christain school (a key element of this discussion), then you play by their rules (stupid though they may be). Exclusionary as it sounds, that's how things work around here. Ya know, that whole church and state thing.
Private *anything* works much the same way.

Take a web site for example...
If you are using someone else's forum, you need to follow their rules. They have the right to boot you with or without provocation.

It is their right, their freedom, to do so.

We've booted people who do not adhere to our "beliefs" or were not willing to follow the rules. Whether you like the analogy or not, it is how things work. :wink:

Of course, this was not meant as a personal attack but a mere observation of how far the right will try to push their agenda. Children always are the first ones to suffer. It's not right.
Setting a standard and sticking to it may very well be the same as "pushing an agenda". If you think only the far right does this.. well.. I have bad news for you... you've been hopelessly politically polarized. :wink:
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Ekade wrote:It is their right, their freedom, to do so.
Damn tootin!

I just wanted an excuse to say that.

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I dont understand why this thread was even posted.
It is a "christian" school. They are trying to uphold a certain standard, and want the parents to set an example for the children.
In case you have been under a rock for the past gazillion years, homosexuality and the church (almost any) don't go together. So why would someone be surprised.

Having said all that. I don't personally agree with their descision, but I understand it.
Just because secular society has decided that gay is okay, that doesn't mean that a "private" "christian" school has to.

You are stepping on a lot of toes with this post, basically making a claim about homosexuality, and religion, in a combined statement. Having been chastized on some of these matters myself, I think that you are trying to set a double standard.

How has this topic been connected with the political right anyway? because I made a comment? That would be pretty flaterring to think that since little 'ol me made a comment that the right wing has spoken. You shouldn't always connect religion and right wing. I happen to work with a bunch of left wingers who are also "religious".

I guess I am the token right wing bastage, but you may find that I have many facets and beliefs contrary to the stereotype.

I know that I personally couldn't make a comment or condemn someone in this situation, because I am guilty of more transgressions than someone with a gay lifestyle. I grew up with a guy that was raised by lesbians. I liked them as people and neighbors, and I liked having the guy as a friend.

On the matter of talking to a crowd... If you are a cheerleader you aren't supposed to be yaking with someone, and football players can't either. It's a common thing for students to get in trouble, allthough usually with their coaches.

So... they broke a rule at a "private" school, got caught, and suffered the consequences... where is the foul?
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