The Politics of The Empire.

[Shensen]

Influence battles isn't a foreign idea, I mean we've all known about battle meditation since the first KOTOR, but again these are influencing a battle with only so many people AND she was at the battle in order to make it work (proximity).

I won't debate that influencing others in battle isn't possible because it is whether you use the force or not, but influencing the "vast part of the Empire" is just more of a stretch than I'm willing to accept

[Sai'nu]

/nods

I should have clarified on that. I meant the commanders, the senate, those easily under his sway. Those that believed him were easier to control as well.

[Ekade]

Influence battles isn't a foreign idea, I mean we've all known about battle meditation since the first KOTOR, but again these are influencing a battle with only so many people AND she was at the battle in order to make it work (proximity).

I won't debate that influencing others in battle isn't possible because it is whether you use the force or not, but influencing the "vast part of the Empire" is just more of a stretch than I'm willing to accept

I know.. there is no right or wrong answer. The rule of thumb I like to use when creating fiction or ideas is to make it so no one has an I-WIN button.

See Isleh's example:

If that were true, then the common rebel solider couldn't exist.

Vader: "They are on Hoth, my Master"
Emperor: "*Mmmmmm..... I am thinking of hoth* <bing!> All your troops are belong to me!"

That's an I-WIN button and should be avoided because I-win buttons = cheeze = boring story.

So, the *real* limitation of the force is cheeze. If the Emperor was so powerful that he would automatically win, there would be no story.

[Shensen]

Behold the power of cheese!

So the issue we're all really skirting around here, is that the Emperor likes and controls the cheese?

[Sai'nu]

Exactly. But, he isn't a limburger (sp?) sort of cheese. That's the 'I-win' smelly kind that overwhelms you. Maybe he's more swiss? Puts some holes in the system so you have to rely on him?

[Shensen]

Hmm I see him more as a bleu cheese - some like him, some don't but he goes great with hot wings.

[Krusshyk]

Perhaps he is like a smokey Gouda, the most under-rated of all cheesedom. The jedi didn't seem to notice it, but he totally bitch slapped all of them. Just like smoked Gouda.

[Shensen]

I'll go with that

[Sai'nu]

Getting back on track though...

My main point is that the people celebrating in the end traces back to The Emperor being an oppressive figure in the long run. I think the people realize this by the end of The Empire. That the wool had been pulled over their eyes. That those Regional Govenors Palpatine had wrapped around his pinky finger that used Fear as their main tool to 'keep everyone in line' wasn't what the common citizen wound up wanting. But it took the minority Rebels to bring about the change.

This just starts a new cycle of power though. Is The New Republic really any different than The Empire? The Old Republic?

How this affects a commoner in The Empire though I think will be the same story we hear in KoToR and EU New Republic Times. Someone, somewhere, always has a problem with the system.

[mayth]

you also have to take into acount the religion of a system/race/planet. if say... a planet had a profit or text that fortold the comming of a glactic empire, and the emporor/lord would bring peace and eternal learning,ect. then that would have an effect on the citizen, espacaly if the entire population followed said religion..thus crating a part in the milatary that sees the emporor as a moraly just and ritecus person, and the jedi as power seeking heritics....

(thus i am talking of terra, mayths homeworld)

[xyryn]

Or, you could take the Rylothian view...we have our problems; the Republic did nothing, the Empire did nothing. /pshrug

[Isleh]

Or, you could take the Rylothian view...we have our problems; the Republic did nothing, the Empire did nothing. /pshrug

One cannot forget apathy. The single most powerful force in the universe.

A person who obtains pure apathy cannot be beaten. Nothing can derail the diabolical speach and make an evil ruler of the galaxy walk away confused and wondering where his plan went wrong like a simple one word response of "meh... ".

'cause you know he's just screaming for attention.

[Isleh]

So back on track,

- Most of the population is loyal to the Empire ( due to ignorance or due to self interest )

- Most of the population is ignorant of the Sith.

- All of the population has been informed that Jedi are the bad guys. Force technology is illegal.

Would a agent of the empire, who is also a force user be looked upon with distain by other non-force sensitive agents and higher command within the Empire as undermining Imperial Authority when they use those powers indiscriminately?

Such as this?

Yes, a police officer in the United States can break the law, but they better have a very good reason.

I also think that a agent of the Empire who brought this kind of attention to themselves would not like the investigation into the incident very much.

[Shensen]

So back on track,

- Most of the population is loyal to the Empire ( due to ignorance or due to self interest )

- Most of the population is ignorant of the Sith.

- All of the population has been informed that Jedi are the bad guys. Force technology is illegal.

Would a agent of the empire, who is also a force user be looked upon with distain by other non-force sensitive agents and higher command within the Empire as undermining Imperial Authority when they use those powers indiscriminately?

Such as this?

Yes, a police officer in the United States can break the law, but they better have a very good reason.

I also think that a agent of the Empire who brought this kind of attention to themselves would not like the investigation into the incident very much.

Exactly what I was gettin at.

[mayth]

to know thyn enamy...you must become thy enimy