Are the new requirements for Jedi making it too easy?

[Novall]

Also any holo professions you may have ground up will help you out.

Last night I was able to train in Melee Speed under Combat Prowess all the way up to level IV. That gives me +12 speed to ALL melee professions I have. Now I am a Swordsman to be reckonned with. Woot!

This is because I must have ground at least one Holo profession. Now mind you I haven't mastered any on purpose. The only holocron I opened said Creature Handler and while I was one for a bit I never mastered it. On the other hand I have masteres Swordsman, Commando, Marksmen, Artisan and Scout. One of those must have been one of my holos.

Having done holo professions means two things for you:

-You get enough experience for one tree
-You unlock to skills to train in without having to wait for new quests to spawn in the cyclical timline of the town.

What does this mean?
You get the FS XP by trading in your current XP for any profession but you can only train once you do a specific quest for a specific person in the town. For example, I did the quest for the Captain of the guard in town and was able to train in Ranged Accuracy. If you do missions for Whip you can train in the Enhanced Reflexes tree. Get the idea? Having Holo professions done means you don't have to wait for different NPCs to spawn and do their missions.

Before Ekade goes crazy off Serets post...let me enlighten you. Unless you've done more then 10 holo professions, then your only going to get one free tree unlock. I dont know how Seret did it having only worked on and not masterd it. I was one block from master merchent (Which was my first and only holoprofession) before I trashed it, and I recieved no holo credit. Yala did 17 professions and unlocked 4 trees with 1 tree being given to her by the entrance quest for a total of 5. So unless you have more then 10 professions masterd...dont expect alot of tree gain. Thats what was given as info on the Jedi forums. If you dont believe me...look it up

Dont get your hopes up to be let down if you think your going to be padawan overnight unless you did an extreme amount of profession grinding. Also remember that you have to still get the XP to fill the blocks. This goes for anyone who did hologrinding but stopped with less then 10 professions done. You may be on phase 2, but thats gonna be about as far as your at.

[E-bo Obi]

Ok, I'll see what I can get between now and say Friday night? Would that work for everyone? Does anyone else have the compassion badge? That's actually the hardest one to get really. And if that doesn't work for anyone else all I need to do is give you the evidence and you can deliver it whenever you have the time.

Friday night is always out for me because I go to the Roba.

[Jaminos]

You know it figurse. I am gone for a little over a week and the whole server go's at war. Tisk Tisk Novall send me a PM about what has been going on. I have been hearing thousands of things.

[Seret Sajet]

Before Ekade goes crazy off Serets post...let me enlighten you. Unless you've done more then 10 holo professions, then your only going to get one free tree unlock. I dont know how Seret did it having only worked on and not masterd it. I was one block from master merchent (Which was my first and only holoprofession) before I trashed it, and I recieved no holo credit. Yala did 17 professions and unlocked 4 trees with 1 tree being given to her by the entrance quest for a total of 5. So unless you have more then 10 professions masterd...dont expect alot of tree gain. Thats what was given as info on the Jedi forums. If you dont believe me...look it up

Dont get your hopes up to be let down if you think your going to be padawan overnight unless you did an extreme amount of profession grinding. Also remember that you have to still get the XP to fill the blocks. This goes for anyone who did hologrinding but stopped with less then 10 professions done. You may be on phase 2, but thats gonna be about as far as your at.

Too late, she's crazy from the get-go.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I did not mean to imply you get the branches filled because of the holo's you grinded. You're supposed to have them unlocked so you can train in them, not filled. This saves you from having to wait for a new cycle at the village and doing the quests to unlock those skills. You still need to amass all the XP first. You are given ONE tree like I was for it. Here is a post from Thunderheart on the SOE forums explaining in full how your hologrinding will help you along.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/boar ... e.id=22192

I may not have filled the one holo I used but I may have mastered another that I did not know of. This is the only way I can explain being able to train in Melee Speed I-IV.

Again sorry if there was any confusion from my post.

[Hashum]

Ok, I can do Saturday if that's better. But Novall as to what you're saying that's not entirely accurate. The reason for no extra tree's and 17 professions is because none of those professions were either of the two silent professions. Here's the info from the SOE webpage explaining the holo bonus.

:



If you have... The credit you will receive is...

No professions remaining: 6 Force Sensitive branches will be granted

1 profession remaining: 5 Force Sensitive branches will be granted

2 professions remaining: 4 Force Sensitive branches will be granted

3 professions remaining: 3 Force Sensitive branches will be granted

4 professions remaining: 2 Force Sensitive branches will be granted

5 professions remaining: 1 Force Sensitive branch will be granted


So in Ekades case the most she could have remaining if she got at least the 4 holo's done is 2 professions remaining which means she gets 4 Force Sensitive Branches.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/boar ... e.id=22192

That's the post explaining

[Novall]

Before Ekade goes crazy off Serets post...let me enlighten you. Unless you've done more then 10 holo professions, then your only going to get one free tree unlock. I dont know how Seret did it having only worked on and not masterd it. I was one block from master merchent (Which was my first and only holoprofession) before I trashed it, and I recieved no holo credit. Yala did 17 professions and unlocked 4 trees with 1 tree being given to her by the entrance quest for a total of 5. So unless you have more then 10 professions masterd...dont expect alot of tree gain. Thats what was given as info on the Jedi forums. If you dont believe me...look it up

Dont get your hopes up to be let down if you think your going to be padawan overnight unless you did an extreme amount of profession grinding. Also remember that you have to still get the XP to fill the blocks. This goes for anyone who did hologrinding but stopped with less then 10 professions done. You may be on phase 2, but thats gonna be about as far as your at.

Too late, she's crazy from the get-go.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I did not mean to imply you get the branches filled because of the holo's you grinded. You're supposed to have them unlocked so you can train in them, not filled. This saves you from having to wait for a new cycle at the village and doing the quests to unlock those skills. You still need to amass all the XP first. You are given ONE tree like I was for it. Here is a post from Thunderheart on the SOE forums explaining in full how your hologrinding will help you along.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/boar ... e.id=22192

I may not have filled the one holo I used but I may have mastered another that I did not know of. This is the only way I can explain being able to train in Melee Speed I-IV.

Again sorry if there was any confusion from my post.

Thunderheart answers your question Ekade in that post. If you check your force and your not glowing...that means you havent done enough professions under hologrinding to warrant a visit from the old man yet, or your havent gotten the right badges. I was lucky enough to have the badges when the patch when though, cause I couldnth handle the hologrinding thing.

If you have 5 professions left to grind to unlock your jedi in the old system, then you get 1 free block ect ect. My advice is get glowy and check it out. You know you'll get atleast one free unlock, Which means you will start on phase 2 instead of 1.

[Ekade]

I see.. so holo professions just open up branches? I would still need to grind the 120,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 XP?

Too late, she's crazy from the get-go.

Only crazy for you baby.

[Novall]

Ok, I can do Saturday if that's better. But Novall as to what you're saying that's not entirely accurate. The reason for no extra tree's and 17 professions is because none of those professions were either of the two silent professions. Here's the info from the SOE webpage explaining the holo bonus.

:



If you have... The credit you will receive is...

No professions remaining: 6 Force Sensitive branches will be granted

1 profession remaining: 5 Force Sensitive branches will be granted

2 professions remaining: 4 Force Sensitive branches will be granted

3 professions remaining: 3 Force Sensitive branches will be granted

4 professions remaining: 2 Force Sensitive branches will be granted

5 professions remaining: 1 Force Sensitive branch will be granted


So in Ekades case the most she could have remaining if she got at least the 4 holo's done is 2 professions remaining which means she gets 4 Force Sensitive Branches.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/boar ... e.id=22192

That's the post explaining

If thats true then she'll only have to wait 6 weeks to worry about the last two blocks. Like I said, she needs to get to the village so she can see exactly how many she can unlock. At the very least we know she gets one freebee, but she has the possiability to get more. My thing is that I dont want anyone to get all up and up to be possiably let down about it later. Theres still one hell of a grind because you dont get to fill those blocks instantly. I think the 3 weeks between phases is a perfect amount of time to get one tree filled. Hell I'm half way done with my first tree after 4 days of hunting.

[Novall]

I see.. so holo professions just open up branches? I would still need to grind the 120,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 XP?

Too late, she's crazy from the get-go.

Only crazy for you baby.

Only 120mil of ranged/melee xp. 1-3 ratio for combat xp, and 1-1 for bh and I think slicing xp (i'm slicing things like mad).

If your a swordsman or TKA then you can get it fairly fast.

Also remember that your dancing XP also converts.

[Seret Sajet]

I see.. so holo professions just open up branches? I would still need to grind the 120,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 XP?

Too late, she's crazy from the get-go.

Only crazy for you baby.

Now you got it. You get one tree to fill up. Thats not bad to start.
The rest is all up to your regular XP. Now for a little more help.

Here are the 4 skill sets and their trees....

Crafting Mastery
Technique
Assembly
Experimentation
Repair

Enhanced Senses
Healing
Surveying
Persuasion
Luck

Enhanced Reflexes
Melee Defense
Ranged Defense
Vehicle Control
Survival

Combat Prowess
Melee Accuracy
Melee Speed
Ranged Accuracy
Ranged Speed

Ok now that you know what you can train in, here is how your XP converts to FS XP.

Combat & Reflex XPs
Weapons xps -- 30->1
Combat xps -- 3->1
Squad Leader xps -- 90->1
Investigation xps -- 1->1

Crafting XPs
Armor Crafting -- 5->1
Bio-Engineering -- 4->1
DNA Sampling -- 3->1
Medicine Crafting -- 5->1
General Crafting -- 8->1
Spice Crafting -- 5->1
Structure Crafting -- 35->1
Weapon Crafting -- 5->1

Sense XPs
Image Design xps -- 7->1
Dancing xps -- 10->1
Musician xps -- 10->1
Entertainer Healing xps -- 10->1
Scout xps -- 8->1
Trapping xps -- 25->1
Survival xps -- 5->1
Medical xps -- 10->1
Surveying xps -- 10->1
Merchant xps -- 4->1
Creature Handling -- 9->1

So as you can see your quest for a Padawan is gonna take a while. It was quite smart of the devs to make XP that is easiest to come by (like Squad Leader) the highest rate of conversion.

So you can grind and grind and grind but you still have to wait for the village to cycle so you can take a new quest and unlock another box to train in.

Get it? Got it? Good?

[X'an Shin]

So what's the vehicle control thing do under the FS tree? Make your speeder bike go faster?

[Novall]

So what's the vehicle control thing do under the FS tree? Make your speeder bike go faster?

I believe so yeah. My view on that skill is that a disabled speeder with a jedi on it goes as fast as everyone elses...

[Hashum]

Ekade won't need to grind any xp except for her last two branches. Considering at most she's only got 2 professions remaining in the Holo old system since she grinded to the silent holo. This mean she automatically gets 4 branches free meaning she only needs to do two herself. From reading the other posts that just doesn't seem clear. All she needs to do is grind two branches at the

175k XP
250k XP
etc.
etc.

twice that's all she would need to do. So at most I think she would only need to do two quests to unlock the two branches and then she's got enough XP to even get at least 1 or 2 blocks I'd think.

[Novall]

Ekade won't need to grind any xp except for her last two branches. Considering at most she's only got 2 professions remaining in the Holo old system since she grinded to the silent holo. This mean she automatically gets 4 branches free meaning she only needs to do two herself. From reading the other posts that just doesn't seem clear. All she needs to do is grind two branches at the

175k XP
250k XP
etc.
etc.

twice that's all she would need to do. So at most I think she would only need to do two quests to unlock the two branches and then she's got enough XP to even get at least 1 or 2 blocks I'd think.

If thats the case, how did seret unlock an extra branch but didnt get to fill it? From what Yala said, she needed 38mil unarmed xp to get her 5 branches finished...thats not counting what she already converted from combat and dancing ect. Doesnt make sence if people are unlocking all these trees yet having to get so much XP if their already filled. Those that are unlocking from between pubs 9 and 10 are still having to get the xp from what I understand, they just get the trees unlocked.

(EDIT:)

Hashum is right, you do get the completed trees, however its based off the 8 silent professions that were flaged to unlock people. only SILENT professions count as far as the unlocks work though, so if you have any of those...then thats whats gonna count.

[Seret Sajet]

This is true. My guess is out of the 5 professions I mastered one was a silent holocron profession. There's no other way to explain how I filled the Melee Speed tree but it didn't allow me to fill any other tree.

No worries from me though. I'm not out for a Jedi charactger but that +12 speed to my Scythe has me happy as Ekade at a dance party.